You won't get in great shape until you are comfortable being mildly hungry

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IMO this is the real key to getting down to a very low body %


You have to be ok with that feeling of being mildly hungry/depleted. It's all a mental thing too - you can rewire your brain to feel ok in that state. The reality of the situation is, no matter how healthy you eat, you will feel mildly depleted/hungry when you are in a calorie deficit (especially in a 800-1300 calorie deficit which I personally like doing). Embrace the process, learn to love the feeling of being depleted as a sign you're getting in great shape.


the more comfortable you are being mildly hungry, the more weight you can lose and get shredded. Let's all get in great shape guys, some daily motivation for ya



 
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Dave, you’ve been talking about these calorie deficits and shedding fat for over a year now.

Are you shredded yet?
 

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Where are you now and what are you aiming for?

I'm like 5'10 195 maybe 11% bodyfat

I'm actually pretty happy with my physique. I have very wide shoulders and a super narrow waist. I do want bigger arms though - my arms are like 16.7 inches. I would like about 17.5 inch arms. My chest and back are real thick
 

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IMO this is the real key to getting down to a very low body %


You have to be ok with that feeling of being mildly hungry/depleted. It's all a mental thing too - you can rewire your brain to feel ok in that state. The reality of the situation is, no matter how healthy you eat, you will feel mildly depleted/hungry when you are in a calorie deficit (especially in a 800-1300 calorie deficit which I personally like doing). Embrace the process, learn to love the feeling of being depleted as a sign you're getting in great shape.


the more comfortable you are being mildly hungry, the more weight you can lose and get shredded. Let's all get in great shape guys, some daily motivation for ya



her legs are impressing, i want to have small narrow belly and big thigs, but not big ass, that would be weird
 

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Nutritional health aside, I find the connection Dave is making here between very low body fat % and aesthetics when it comes to attracting hot women as something not at all based in reality.

Aesthetically, at 11% BF, you're already there when it comes to attracting women. You've got the abs, the "shredded" look, etc. The very idea that getting down to 6, 7 or 8% BF is what it takes to land you that hot Latina girl with junk in the trunk is absurd.

I've never known women to go gaga over highly pronounced muscle striations and excessive vascularity. In fact, women are more likely getting turned off at that stage.

Dave, if you're not getting a girl like that now at 11%, it certainly isn't going to magically happen at 8%.
 

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The more dave thinks getting lower body is the key, he can avoid the real issue.

Which is facing his inner terror that comes with strolling and starting a conversation with a hottie.

20% body fat guy who is fearless in talking to the ladies, making them laugh, etc, is going to trump petrified 8% body fat guy cowering in the corner every single time.
 

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Body dysmorphic disorder.
I think you have this condition. Get help for real.
 

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I think it’s some truth in what he’s saying, I don’t think walking around at 8% body fat year round is healthy, however I do think that it’s ok to be mildly hungry when cutting.
 

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I think it’s some truth in what he’s saying, I don’t think walking around at 8% body fat year round is healthy, however I do think that it’s ok to be mildly hungry when cutting.
A couple fast days a month keeps weight level.
 

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I think it’s some truth in what he’s saying, I don’t think walking around at 8% body fat year round is healthy, however I do think that it’s ok to be mildly hungry when cutting.
I tend to agree too. I've found that you need way less food than you think. Matter of fact I've never screwed up by deciding to NOT eat.

People seem to give bigdave17 a hard time (not sure why he's banned), but they aren't really getting his point. He's not talking about nutrition deprivation. He's simply talking about eating less.
 
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As I mentioned above, I know this tip, it's a rather popular opinion in general for the weight loss and being in a good shape, however this method really doesn't work for everybody. Weight loss is a very individual thing and not all popular methods can be helpful for everybody, that's why it's such a problem for some people to become slim.

For example in my case the most effective methods were:
- correcting your sleep schedule (because often lack of sleep is one of the biggest risk factors for the weight gain)
- avoiding too much sugar and soda in your daily menu (and it's important for drinks too)
- making physical exercises regurarly (you don't need to starve yourself with them, just find the most pleasant and effective ones for you, and don't miss your workout everyday)
- drinking enough water everyday (it's helpful not only for the weight loss but also for general cleansing of body which is important in this case too)

Also it's known that in case of some people no methods can work really effectively because of some their hidden illnesses, usually the hormonal imbalance, for example the extreme weight gain is often caused with low human growth hormone https://www.hgha.com/hgh-levels-in-men-by-age/ which is strongly connected with aging (and that's why the older you are, the harder it's to lose the weight) and can be really treated only in a medical way.
 
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I tend to agree too. I've found that you need way less food than you think. Matter of fact I've never screwed up by deciding to NOT eat.
True this. There is a make-break point here. If you start getting an ammonia smell to your sweat then you are catabolizing muscle. If not, you are good to go.
 

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Growth Hormone output quadruples after day 2 to preserve muscle. The fatloss and water loss is real and any slight muscle loss recovers once you start eating again. A 2-5 day water fast will teach you alot. You get increased mental clarity in day 2 or 3 and your hunger subsides as the body starts burning on body fat. Youll learn that your probably addicted to some sugars and carbs. Its a parameter to explore. It wont kill you. Youll learn something. And youll lose fat.
 

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I agree Dave. I got shredded again by not eating after 8pm. This was tough at first because I stay up late. Being shredded to the point of sub 10% body fat is not natural and in order to get there you have to do semi extreme stuff.
 

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I agree Dave. I got shredded again by not eating after 8pm. This was tough at first because I stay up late. Being shredded to the point of sub 10% body fat is not natural and in order to get there you have to do semi extreme stuff.
Tell me about it. I too am a night owl, and all too often I find myself digging through the fridge at 10 or 11 pm. I think if I quit doing this I could drop 15 lbs. in a month.
 

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I'm still on the fence about eating late. I think it has possibilities. But then I'm looking at it from the perspective of intermittent fasting. I wont eat after that for about 18 hours.
What you eat could be a factor for sure. I'm usually between 11 and 15%. At 11% I can see my abs. Not majorly defined but they are there and self evident.
Staying around 11% or lower is a tough road to follow. I think the most important question to ask oneself is what is the purpose of staying below 11%? If you are a competitor in competitions then it makes sense.
This being said I think every man should get below 10% just once in his life so he knows how to do it.
 
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