"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You guys think it's possible to f close a girl that needs to get up early?

Kal0051

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So going out with this girl this week and I thinking about trying to get her back to my place. This is the first time we're hanging out. The only prob I can see is that she has to work early the next day (like 6 am). Don't know how possible this is. Was thinking of us going skating in the early evening, then grab a drink. I'd invite her back to my place to watch a movie after that since I just got a new big screen tv. But don't know if she'll go for that last part since she needs to get up early plus I live on the opposite side of the city from her (although it's only 1 bus away).
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Mantis Toboggan

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Friendly warning: Stop trying to apply logic to an emotional event.

It's possible to F close a girl in any situation.

Give the girl a reason to f-close, and she'll f-close. She can call in late to work if she has to. That's her problem. Get her hormones worked up the right way, and she'd bang you in the back of a car at her grandpa's funeral. A little thing like getting up early for work isn't going to reverse thousands of years of natural instinct.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Friendly warning: Stop trying to apply logic to an emotional event.

This statement may sum up this entire website.

They should change
from sosuave.net to stoptryingtoapplylogictoanemotionalevent.com
 

Kal0051

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Lol, not trying to apply logic to a emotional event. Just getting your thoughts on the logistics.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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st_99

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Kal0051 said:
Lol, not trying to apply logic to a emotional event. Just getting your thoughts on the logistics.
the answer is YES YES YES

I don't care if she has work in 3 minutes, thats the point.
 

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All that means, is dont waste any time escalating. Seriously, would you pass up an opportunity to get laid, cuz you had to wake up early?
 
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