"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You guys think it's possible to f close a girl that needs to get up early?

Kal0051

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So going out with this girl this week and I thinking about trying to get her back to my place. This is the first time we're hanging out. The only prob I can see is that she has to work early the next day (like 6 am). Don't know how possible this is. Was thinking of us going skating in the early evening, then grab a drink. I'd invite her back to my place to watch a movie after that since I just got a new big screen tv. But don't know if she'll go for that last part since she needs to get up early plus I live on the opposite side of the city from her (although it's only 1 bus away).
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Mantis Toboggan

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Friendly warning: Stop trying to apply logic to an emotional event.

It's possible to F close a girl in any situation.

Give the girl a reason to f-close, and she'll f-close. She can call in late to work if she has to. That's her problem. Get her hormones worked up the right way, and she'd bang you in the back of a car at her grandpa's funeral. A little thing like getting up early for work isn't going to reverse thousands of years of natural instinct.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Friendly warning: Stop trying to apply logic to an emotional event.

This statement may sum up this entire website.

They should change
from sosuave.net to stoptryingtoapplylogictoanemotionalevent.com
 

Kal0051

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Lol, not trying to apply logic to a emotional event. Just getting your thoughts on the logistics.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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st_99

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Kal0051 said:
Lol, not trying to apply logic to a emotional event. Just getting your thoughts on the logistics.
the answer is YES YES YES

I don't care if she has work in 3 minutes, thats the point.
 

horaholic

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All that means, is dont waste any time escalating. Seriously, would you pass up an opportunity to get laid, cuz you had to wake up early?
 
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