"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
you drop the chick after 2-3 dates if she doesnt put out
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I.A.F.Y.B.
Master Don Juan
I would say if she isn't showing good interest after the first few dates; drop her.
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
but anyway unless i know shes a virgin, I'd wait til probably the 5th date before i start thinking what the ****. But if shes being a stupid ***** ****blocker, **** that.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Charlie Gordon
Don Juan
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DTOW... DATE Ten Other Women!
Seriously, you've got to be the judge of this stuff. Experience helps. Don't look to the peanut gallery for advice on handling the warm, beautiful woman in front of you. You've got to be spontaneous and confident. Women can sense it if you are neither of the above and that in and of itself will be the deal breaker!
You decide what you want. Maybe you're in a hurry to get to sex. Maybe you want an emotional connection. Maybe you're just happy to fool around with her or sleep next to her. You decide what you can and cannot do without in this relationship and base your decision on that.
Don't let these anonymous forum posters define "putting out" for you. Not every worthwhile relationship (and I use that term loosely) starts off hot and heavy. Some relationships take their time and others get off to a bang. Depends on the participants.
One criticism I have of my earlier years is that I lacked patience and optimism - I always assumed the worst and ran away from what could have been satisfying friendships, sex, and possibly more. Then again, there have been times when I was seeing someone and we were both aware of how it was going nowhere. Moving on was a good decision. How do you decide? Experience. DTOW.
Faded Image
Senior Don Juan
Faded Image
Senior Don Juan
, my mind set was "She'll only lay in my bed once before getting fvcked". The first night will be their familiarization to my room and bed. The second night, you bets believe she's getting fvcked.
Charlie Gordon
Don Juan
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Impressive given you have the skill. Frightening if taken out of context.Faded Image said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.