You don't want to turn down women who give you IOD

[jhonny9546]

IOIs, or Indicators of Interest, are great signs that someone is attracted to another person. On the other hand, IODs, or Indicators of Disinterest, show that someone is not attracted. Now, how many times in your life have you received IODs and immediately understood that a woman wasn't attracted to you?


I'm not sure if it’s because of my body, face, or something in my behavior, but I’m a 30-year-old man, 165 cm tall, with a great physique and a good-looking face. When I'm around women, they often get "intimidated," become "shy," and at the same time they give me long looks, try to prolong conversations, ask me questions, touch me, and so on. So, it’s like a mix of IOIs and IODs.

You know what? These women are all attracted. It’s almost like my height of 165 cm creates a contradiction in their minds, making them think, "This guy is too short for me, but I feel this attraction and I feel excited." This actually makes them even more drawn to me.

How common is where women seem "intimidated," "nervous," "shy," or "quiet" around you, but at the same time, you can feel a strong desire from them?
Is this related to the guy they desire, or more a thing about them, like self-esteem, prior rejections, etc?

 

[The Duke]

You think way too much. It's really not this hard. A lot less talk, and a lot more action.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You think way too much. It's really not this hard. A lot less talk, and a lot more action.

I was going to say, it’s possible he is giving off anxious non verbal cues

 

[Gamisch]

@New_Journey just made a great post saying something similar: but the elephant in the room on this forum is the fact that most ( including ME!!!) are HYPER focused on women and how they respond to us. More so than " the average man ".

This attitude is probably taking away from your ability to pull( as contradictory as it may sound).

You see, we will never fully understand what's it like to be the ( vulnerable) prey. Women can get graped, physically/ sexually assaulted by men thus they HAVE to be extremely careful about they way they respond to men. ( Only now I'm making bank with my painting work I feel SOME pressure because if the thugs know I make bank and got cash they might wanna rob me. That's the closest a man can get to become a target and experience that scary feeling that women might experienceday in day out)

I am sorry, but let's call a spade a spade: if women do NOT give you all that attention and more it's probably because you are TOO focused on p00sy and they can smell it from a mile away. We all know how much game we got when we were occupied vs how difficult it was when we were " sexually broke". Women avoid you because they WANT to avoid you and not because they are intimidated by you.

The real trick is to completely change your mindset . Same goes for me...and that my friend, is EXTREMELY difficult. It comes down to STOP this hardwired believe that someday a woman will come and save you.

 

[BaronOfHair]

How common is where women seem "intimidated," "nervous," "shy," or "quiet" around you...

Ever since I stopped walking into co-ktail lounges wearing a bullet belt and a necklace made of severed ears, I've ceased encountering the sort of dilemma you describe here, OP

 

[Travel memoir21]

I think it all boils down to discipline and social momentum. You get a good night sleep, you make your bed, you exercise, get something to read and go outside say hi and talk to a few of your neighbors and encourage them for good karma......then that vibe will continue throughout your day. Do this for 30 days with semen retention and women will give you indicators of interest fast, it's all about being social - going to the gym, working out, making new friends and forming social connections.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

IOD. Just Next her.

 

[sevbucmash]

165 cm tall

This

 

[sevbucmash]

5'5" is the height of your average petite girl. You can't wear 12 inch heels, if you could you'd be 6'5", but that would be gay. However, you could wear some heels, maybe 2.5" heels, that would make you 5'8". Almost..........

Find some shoes with proper heels and see the difference.

 

[BaronOfHair]

This

Don't step on an IEDs when 165CM tall... Any who fella who does so is likely to roll away not only shorter, but a paraplegic also

 

[corrector]

When I'm around women, they often get "intimidated," become "shy," and at the same time they give me long looks, try to prolong conversations, ask me questions, touch me, and so on. So, it’s like a mix of IOIs and IODs.

Those are IOIs not IODs. If you got IODs, then they would not look at you in the first place. They would not be talking or having a conversation with you, asking you questions, they would not want to deal with you in the first place. You just have IOIs.

Someone who is intimdated and shy does not mean an IOD at all. If someone who, as you are describing like that, is like that gives you a single IOI, then it's just an IOI. IODs would not be intimated or shy, they will give you a bad glare back at you, increase their distance or actively walk away from you, give you a vibe that they they don't want you around them, etc.... not "intimidated or shy".

 

[jhonny9546]

@Gamisch
We’re here to learn, and it’s normal to explain everything that happens in a rational way.
I don’t ask myself these questions in the exact moment, but I need to explain the concept clearly to strangers, and to do that, I’ll be descriptive.


@corrector
I think this aligns more with my experience. And what @sevbucmash says about height is perhaps what leaves them somewhat "uncertain" about why they feel attracted.
Because women have been sold a different cultural programming.


@BaronOfHair
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[BackInTheGame78]

You think way too much. It's really not this hard. A lot less talk, and a lot more action.

"Talk less....smile more..."

 

[Hamurabimbi]

IOIs, or Indicators of Interest, are great signs that someone is attracted to another person. On the other hand, IODs, or Indicators of Disinterest, show that someone is not attracted. Now, how many times in your life have you received IODs and immediately understood that a woman wasn't attracted to you?


I'm not sure if it’s because of my body, face, or something in my behavior, but I’m a 30-year-old man, 165 cm tall, with a great physique and a good-looking face. When I'm around women, they often get "intimidated," become "shy," and at the same time they give me long looks, try to prolong conversations, ask me questions, touch me, and so on. So, it’s like a mix of IOIs and IODs.

You know what? These women are all attracted. It’s almost like my height of 165 cm creates a contradiction in their minds, making them think, "This guy is too short for me, but I feel this attraction and I feel excited." This actually makes them even more drawn to me.

How common is where women seem "intimidated," "nervous," "shy," or "quiet" around you, but at the same time, you can feel a strong desire from them?
Is this related to the guy they desire, or more a thing about them, like self-esteem, prior rejections, etc?

Girls are obvious. If they’re interested, you’ll know. There’s really no ambiguity.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

How common is where women seem "intimidated," "nervous," "shy," or "quiet" around you, but at the same time, you can feel a strong desire from them?
Is this related to the guy they desire, or more a thing about them, like self-esteem, prior rejections, etc?

For the 1,000,000th time, this the related to the Catholic Church's Virgin Mary worship and outside of Catholic-heavy countries not a major phenomenon. For most guys in the west, you indeed want to avoid women giving IOD's unless you're into masochism.

That being said, 90% of the board is into masochism, so...

 

[MatureDJ]

IOIs, or Indicators of Interest, are great signs that someone is attracted to another person. On the other hand, IODs, or Indicators of Disinterest, show that someone is not attracted. Now, how many times in your life have you received IODs and immediately understood that a woman wasn't attracted to you?


I'm not sure if it’s because of my body, face, or something in my behavior, but I’m a 30-year-old man, 165 cm tall, with a great physique and a good-looking face. When I'm around women, they often get "intimidated," become "shy," and at the same time they give me long looks, try to prolong conversations, ask me questions, touch me, and so on. So, it’s like a mix of IOIs and IODs.

You know what? These women are all attracted. It’s almost like my height of 165 cm creates a contradiction in their minds, making them think, "This guy is too short for me, but I feel this attraction and I feel excited." This actually makes them even more drawn to me.

How common is where women seem "intimidated," "nervous," "shy," or "quiet" around you, but at the same time, you can feel a strong desire from them?
Is this related to the guy they desire, or more a thing about them, like self-esteem, prior rejections, etc?

I get the IOD in the form of "stop looking at me".

 

[MatureDJ]

5'5" is the height of your average petite girl. You can't wear 12 inch heels, if you could you'd be 6'5", but that would be gay. However, you could wear some heels, maybe 2.5" heels, that would make you 5'8". Almost..........

Find some shoes with proper heels and see the difference.

Wow, I don't even mog petite chicks.