"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So, this girl I've known for five years who saw me as 'just a friend' in a group, especially given I was seeing her best friend once upon a time... I asked her out one on one, she came, we kissed.

Then I get LJBF'D. I say what ev', and remove her from my phone and facebook.

She contacts me weeks later wanting to hang out. So we do. We make out. She decides she can't go further because we're just not a fit.

She contacts me weeks later wanting to hang out. De ja vue. I make out I'm busy (I am, but I could shuffle things around, but I don't) for awhile. Eventually I agree to hang.

We make out. She sends me sexually explicit texts. With pictures.

If anyone can figure out how I keep jail breaking the friend zone, let me know so I can write it down.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The friend zone doesnt exist. It's called the reject zone.

This situation is not good for you and there is not a lot you can do to change it. You can't change a girls mind after she has made a decision.
 
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Sounds like the first time she made contact after those few weeks was to see if she could still get you if she wanted to and the "not fit" thing was a ***** test to see if you would turn to a wuss n try to prove you do fit, hence she would feel good. But you said whatever, which I think was DHV hardcore. You also DHV'd on cancelling the 2nd one. She gave you no further tests and sent you those texts.Id still be "whatever" about the pics and stuff or ANYTHING she tries to do on HER terms to hook you... Let her push harder n harder n harder forever. Invest and work for your approval but make it on your terms not hers... "I.E: going to eat here tonight n then i got this movie im dying to see, you can tag along if u want"... If she says no, then again "whatever"... dont let her get you on her terms, basically.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thank for the advice. Sounds about right.

What's DHV?
 
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