"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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****y, not funny, but still make her laugh. Same effect?

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Let's say I have high rapport with some girl, and make a ****y comment but deliver it properly and with a smile so that it makes her laugh.

For example, in a txt message:
"Damn, you haven't seen or messaged me in 4 days you must have some strong willpower to not do anything about that! :) lol"
or something basic like:
"You know I'm the best." <smile at her>

As you see it isn't exactly funny, but with proper delivery and high rapport I reckon it could make a girl laugh.

So, anyway, would it have the same effect as general C&F?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you're being ****y and you're making her laugh, you're being ****y and funny. As long as she's laughing, you're doing just fine.
 

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Its better to be slightly more ****y then slightly less ****y.
 

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I disagree the C & F ratio differs with each chic and the forum (net, text, IM, in person, alone, with friends, in a crowd, etc)

It also takes disipline to master, years to truly perfect. In general is more funny and LESS ****y.
 

izza

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C&F in my experience is really crappy. Drop the ****y, drop the funny. Focus on being interesting. Learn to praise your virtues and interest people with your faults.

My game has 0 ****y, and although I'm funny, I don't play the clown. I focus on having a real, human interaction with another human being. C&F, though it is one piece of the overall puzzle, is, in my opinion, just one piece. There are bigger, more important pieces.

Most n00bs who use C&F do it extremely badly. It is painful to watch. Please stop.

Izza
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
 

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S.Y.L said:
C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
I agree with that. Best to just drop it.

Although I do mess around with certain coworkers and some of my best friends with that stuff. With people I'm just meeting, I don't like the dynamic it sets up.

Izza
 

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Yeah, it works only in certain situations with people who know you well.
 
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