"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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****y, not funny, but still make her laugh. Same effect?

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Let's say I have high rapport with some girl, and make a ****y comment but deliver it properly and with a smile so that it makes her laugh.

For example, in a txt message:
"Damn, you haven't seen or messaged me in 4 days you must have some strong willpower to not do anything about that! :) lol"
or something basic like:
"You know I'm the best." <smile at her>

As you see it isn't exactly funny, but with proper delivery and high rapport I reckon it could make a girl laugh.

So, anyway, would it have the same effect as general C&F?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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If you're being ****y and you're making her laugh, you're being ****y and funny. As long as she's laughing, you're doing just fine.
 

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Its better to be slightly more ****y then slightly less ****y.
 

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I disagree the C & F ratio differs with each chic and the forum (net, text, IM, in person, alone, with friends, in a crowd, etc)

It also takes disipline to master, years to truly perfect. In general is more funny and LESS ****y.
 

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C&F in my experience is really crappy. Drop the ****y, drop the funny. Focus on being interesting. Learn to praise your virtues and interest people with your faults.

My game has 0 ****y, and although I'm funny, I don't play the clown. I focus on having a real, human interaction with another human being. C&F, though it is one piece of the overall puzzle, is, in my opinion, just one piece. There are bigger, more important pieces.

Most n00bs who use C&F do it extremely badly. It is painful to watch. Please stop.

Izza
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
 

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S.Y.L said:
C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
I agree with that. Best to just drop it.

Although I do mess around with certain coworkers and some of my best friends with that stuff. With people I'm just meeting, I don't like the dynamic it sets up.

Izza
 

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Yeah, it works only in certain situations with people who know you well.
 
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