"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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****y, not funny, but still make her laugh. Same effect?

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Let's say I have high rapport with some girl, and make a ****y comment but deliver it properly and with a smile so that it makes her laugh.

For example, in a txt message:
"Damn, you haven't seen or messaged me in 4 days you must have some strong willpower to not do anything about that! :) lol"
or something basic like:
"You know I'm the best." <smile at her>

As you see it isn't exactly funny, but with proper delivery and high rapport I reckon it could make a girl laugh.

So, anyway, would it have the same effect as general C&F?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you're being ****y and you're making her laugh, you're being ****y and funny. As long as she's laughing, you're doing just fine.
 

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Its better to be slightly more ****y then slightly less ****y.
 

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I disagree the C & F ratio differs with each chic and the forum (net, text, IM, in person, alone, with friends, in a crowd, etc)

It also takes disipline to master, years to truly perfect. In general is more funny and LESS ****y.
 

izza

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C&F in my experience is really crappy. Drop the ****y, drop the funny. Focus on being interesting. Learn to praise your virtues and interest people with your faults.

My game has 0 ****y, and although I'm funny, I don't play the clown. I focus on having a real, human interaction with another human being. C&F, though it is one piece of the overall puzzle, is, in my opinion, just one piece. There are bigger, more important pieces.

Most n00bs who use C&F do it extremely badly. It is painful to watch. Please stop.

Izza
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
 

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S.Y.L said:
C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
I agree with that. Best to just drop it.

Although I do mess around with certain coworkers and some of my best friends with that stuff. With people I'm just meeting, I don't like the dynamic it sets up.

Izza
 

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Yeah, it works only in certain situations with people who know you well.
 
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