"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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****y, not funny, but still make her laugh. Same effect?

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Let's say I have high rapport with some girl, and make a ****y comment but deliver it properly and with a smile so that it makes her laugh.

For example, in a txt message:
"Damn, you haven't seen or messaged me in 4 days you must have some strong willpower to not do anything about that! :) lol"
or something basic like:
"You know I'm the best." <smile at her>

As you see it isn't exactly funny, but with proper delivery and high rapport I reckon it could make a girl laugh.

So, anyway, would it have the same effect as general C&F?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If you're being ****y and you're making her laugh, you're being ****y and funny. As long as she's laughing, you're doing just fine.
 
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Its better to be slightly more ****y then slightly less ****y.
 
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I disagree the C & F ratio differs with each chic and the forum (net, text, IM, in person, alone, with friends, in a crowd, etc)

It also takes disipline to master, years to truly perfect. In general is more funny and LESS ****y.
 
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C&F in my experience is really crappy. Drop the ****y, drop the funny. Focus on being interesting. Learn to praise your virtues and interest people with your faults.

My game has 0 ****y, and although I'm funny, I don't play the clown. I focus on having a real, human interaction with another human being. C&F, though it is one piece of the overall puzzle, is, in my opinion, just one piece. There are bigger, more important pieces.

Most n00bs who use C&F do it extremely badly. It is painful to watch. Please stop.

Izza
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
 
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S.Y.L said:
C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
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I agree with that. Best to just drop it.

Although I do mess around with certain coworkers and some of my best friends with that stuff. With people I'm just meeting, I don't like the dynamic it sets up.

Izza
 
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Yeah, it works only in certain situations with people who know you well.
 
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