"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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****y, not funny, but still make her laugh. Same effect?

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Let's say I have high rapport with some girl, and make a ****y comment but deliver it properly and with a smile so that it makes her laugh.

For example, in a txt message:
"Damn, you haven't seen or messaged me in 4 days you must have some strong willpower to not do anything about that! :) lol"
or something basic like:
"You know I'm the best." <smile at her>

As you see it isn't exactly funny, but with proper delivery and high rapport I reckon it could make a girl laugh.

So, anyway, would it have the same effect as general C&F?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If you're being ****y and you're making her laugh, you're being ****y and funny. As long as she's laughing, you're doing just fine.
 

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Its better to be slightly more ****y then slightly less ****y.
 

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I disagree the C & F ratio differs with each chic and the forum (net, text, IM, in person, alone, with friends, in a crowd, etc)

It also takes disipline to master, years to truly perfect. In general is more funny and LESS ****y.
 

izza

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C&F in my experience is really crappy. Drop the ****y, drop the funny. Focus on being interesting. Learn to praise your virtues and interest people with your faults.

My game has 0 ****y, and although I'm funny, I don't play the clown. I focus on having a real, human interaction with another human being. C&F, though it is one piece of the overall puzzle, is, in my opinion, just one piece. There are bigger, more important pieces.

Most n00bs who use C&F do it extremely badly. It is painful to watch. Please stop.

Izza
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
 

izza

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S.Y.L said:
C+F actually never works for me, every single chick just says I'm too ****y and that its a turn off...
I agree with that. Best to just drop it.

Although I do mess around with certain coworkers and some of my best friends with that stuff. With people I'm just meeting, I don't like the dynamic it sets up.

Izza
 

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Yeah, it works only in certain situations with people who know you well.
 
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