maranathaman
Master Don Juan
"and the reason guys have such an issue with this, is self evident in your own post - women don't see this about themselves. women are completely unaware that they are swimming in dangerous waters when they do this."
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
agreed, but its rare. i don't dispute that women tell themselves this though (i just think most of them are lying to themselves).penkitten said:perhaps the woman sees her guy friend as a great friend and that's it.
I wouldn't want to be involve with a woman like that.maranathaman said:Not to threadjack but;
What if this "friend" is a former bf?
or a guy she had sex with in the past?
If anyone knows a thing or two about female friends, it's ME.joekerr31 said:like i say, too many of us guys have seen this phenomena at play. i've never banged a chic that was willing ot cheat on her bf (not my style), but i can tell you i've had female friends, they get in a fight with their bf, they start getting all wrapped up in their low self esteem issues, they have a couple of drinks and then suddenly they are flirting with you liek there is no tomorrow.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Thanx for your answer!Latinoman said:I wouldn't want to be involve with a woman like that.
Bonez said:My opinion, didn't read the OP, is that you shouldn't care. If you have a large goal in life than worrying about your gfs past/present is a HUGE waste of time. Move on if she makes you anxious, find somebody that you can rely on from the beginning.
All great advice, Latinodude-Latinoman said:I STRONGLY disagree with this advice. Here is why...very early...as early as the dating stages...as early as you start talking and getting to know a woman...as early as possible when you still have ALL your senses (when emotions have not kicked in yet)...that's the perfect timing to pay attention to a woman's past and present. Because it matters.
If you wait too long...you will start developing feelings for that person and you will eventually start overlooking the signs.
It is FOOLISH to drop a guard. Even if you have other goals in life. The thing is...many men want to "married a good woman". That's one of men's biggest goals in life.
You drop your guard and forget about patterns and past and all that stuff and you will end up FALLING IN LOVE (e.g. emotional state that make you overlook things)...and potentially making a mistake that can destroy your future.
Approach every woman that you consider for a relationship as a "potential wife". That's the safe bet.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Having lunch during the week (at work, etc.) with male co-workers and even friends is not a bad thing.Maverack said:Ok apparently this isn't a guy that she has ever dated or has expressed interest in her whatsoever. To make a long story short, this chick is really into me and, knowing that this stuff bothers me, she told me that she's going to drop the other guy friends for me. She's told me that her other girlfriends have told her it's a bad idea to have so many guy friends and that she wants to get serious with me etc and realizes that she'll have to phase out some of these friendships in order to have a serious relationship.
She said all of this without any coersion from me. She seems sincere, but in a way I feel slightly apprehensive because now am I the guy that didn't let her have guy friends? I mean, this is something she should have done herself without any prompting by me.
Your last sentence says this - " She should have done 'the right thing' without me having to push the issue." Huh ? A woman will always keep ALL of her relationship cards intact until she has a reason to re-shuffle the deck.Maverack said:She said all of this without any coersion from me. She seems sincere, but in a way I feel slightly apprehensive because now am I the guy that didn't let her have guy friends? I mean, this is something she should have done herself without any prompting by me.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.