"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Would you continue to go out with a girl..
- Thread starter mikey2012
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Your_Royal_Flyness
Don Juan
Nope. Doing that makes you a trick and means she has NO interest in you whatsoever.mikey2012 said:
CrimsonPanther
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i just wouldn't buy her the stuff she asks for.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I had a broad ask me the same thing, I shrugged it off as a simple classic cold case of gold digging.mikey2012 said:
Simply use her for enjoyment but nothing more than that. If it ends, find a new but never buy her **** unless you're already in a LTR of such matters but even then I would keep that to a limit
Unless it's for a holiday and she was specifically asked "what would you like for Christmas/your Birthday/Valentine's Day?"
Now, if you noticed that she wanted something, and she decides not to get it because she's on a budget...and you feel like being nice, okay, fine.
I cringe so hard when I hear about this nonsense of girls demanding things. Eww. Tacky.
HyperAnalyze
Don Juan
No good woman would ask of anything from her man.
A man buys her things if he see's fit that it is necessary and within means.
You know, the obscenity censorship here is ridiculous. Between that and the daily post limit which has caused multiple pages from me to be lost forever, I am really wondering what I gain here.
In fact, see ya. Have good lives!
TheGambino
Master Don Juan
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
This ain't no Charity service!