sageproduct
Banned
Just kidding, April Fool's 
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Many of the guys here over-analyse too much.coochieman said:Wait a minute, SageProduct is a virgin too?
I remember NaughtyNinja sayin' [last year] that he was on a so-called "voluntary" 2 year dry-spell or so.
Packers.... talkin' some pathetic sh!z of recent too.
Cmon! This are dudes I "look up" too for advice here!
Don't wanna sound like an a$$ but...
I'm steady bangin', but I'm still gettin' mad cos I'm thinkin' y'all are havin' threesomes with nines and tens.
I think I some how (stupidly) relate the "number of posts" and "join date" to "how many chicks he must be bangin'"...
How is y'all know so much and are not lotharios yet?
Albeit, I've noticed the over-analysis of trivial issues and frequency of some posters here and I know this dude's a geek talking sh!t behind close doors.
Confused.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I dunno about that, the way I see it most are here to better themselves. I guesstimate that at least 90% of the posters here, are here for help and do not really have their game on lock just yet. Maybe a handful of posters here might actually have decent game, the rest are just posting their own stories, thoughts and stuff. I do not view most on this site as any kind of authority on the matters of dating. Just because someone posts in an online forum does not make them an authority on anything. It only means they have a computer, an internet connection, and a mild interest in the subject matter.coochieman said:Wait a minute, SageProduct is a virgin too?
I remember NaughtyNinja sayin' [last year] that he was on a so-called "voluntary" 2 year dry-spell or so.
Packers.... talkin' some pathetic sh!z of recent too.
Cmon! This are dudes I "look up" too for advice here!
Don't wanna sound like an a$$ but...
I'm steady bangin', but I'm still gettin' mad cos I'm thinkin' y'all are havin' threesomes with nines and tens.
I think I some how (stupidly) relate the "number of posts" and "join date" to "how many chicks he must be bangin'"...
How do y'all know so much and are not lotharios yet?
Albeit, I've noticed the over-analysis of trivial issues and frequency of some posters here and I know this dude's a geek talking sh!t behind close doors.
Confused.
Yeah man, you can even learn from the bad advice. Everyone's opinion is important because it essentially creates what everyone else considers the norm if it's popular enough. Things that you may think don't matter at all, might be pretty important to to others for different reasons that you may have never considered before coming here. It allows you to be a more fair judge of your life and the things that affect it. This site is invaluable in my opinion when it comes to these things.Atom Smasher said:This is very true.
As a bit of an aside, I've found in life that very often an outside observer can give excellent, spot-on advice, even though if he were in the exact same situation, he would falter. Outside perspective absent the emotion can be very valuable, even from someone who doesn't entirely have his shizz together. Of course all must be taken with a grain of salt and evaluated carefully, as most here do.
I once posted a thread here on SS about "The Magic Story" by Frederick Van Rensselaer Dey. It's brilliant story within a story describing how a man can leverage his inner best self to acheive success. It's a classic and is very inspiring. I remember being shocked to hear that he eventually shot himself.
Here was a guy who had brilliant insight into success and personal transformation, but his emotions drove him to despair. He knew in theory how to succeed, but his wild imagination and need to appear successful caused him to pose as a wealthy magnate wherever he went. He allowed the temporary appearance of success (through self and other-deceit) to satisfy his ambition.
The lesson I take away from that is that I never dismiss advice from someone who is learning and is (at this stage of his development) unable to implement what he knows to be true.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Its always down to the true players to make all the moves. The coach can only do just that.VladPatton said:This site is sort of like a fat, out of shape coach that has lots of successful wins. He himself is a pathetic lard ass who can't see his own peen, but his knowledge leads the players to a win.
Was just about to ask you to post it up againAtom Smasher said:
He does not menstruate. He is a guy.ScottMustaine said:Why the **** are you writing in red ? Trying to remind yourself that your plate is about to have her period ?
My bad, I shouldn't and cannot complain since my game [& chest-size] has multiplied exponentially ever since I red-pilled [& SoSuaved too].SgtSplacker said:Yeah man, you can even learn from the bad advice. Everyone's opinion is important because it essentially creates what everyone else considers the norm if it's popular enough. Things that you may think don't matter at all, might be pretty important to to others for different reasons that you may have never considered before coming here. It allows you to be a more fair judge of your life and the things that affect it. This site is invaluable in my opinion when it comes to these things.
Seeing others go through the same stuff I have gone through really takes away any element of "why does this stuff only happen to me" and helps me identify where the issues really lay. Sometimes the one that needs to change is me!
I know this sounds like your woman softly coaxing you to spill flaws out so she can justify dumping you for the next alpha, but...sageproduct said:For the record though, I don't give advice. I might chime in on a topic of discussion to share my experiences or feelings, but never do I advise anyone.
Don't play nice, replace "this site" with "many posters".VladPatton said:This site is sort of like a fat, out of shape coach that has lots of successful wins. He himself is a pathetic lard ass who can't see his own peen, but his knowledge leads the players to a win.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
This deserves a thread all on its own! Anyone else care to offer donations???BeginningDJ said:I would like to pledge $10 to the Sage: Cvmming of Age foundation.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.