sageproduct
Banned
Just kidding, April Fool's 
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Many of the guys here over-analyse too much.coochieman said:Wait a minute, SageProduct is a virgin too?
I remember NaughtyNinja sayin' [last year] that he was on a so-called "voluntary" 2 year dry-spell or so.
Packers.... talkin' some pathetic sh!z of recent too.
Cmon! This are dudes I "look up" too for advice here!
Don't wanna sound like an a$$ but...
I'm steady bangin', but I'm still gettin' mad cos I'm thinkin' y'all are havin' threesomes with nines and tens.
I think I some how (stupidly) relate the "number of posts" and "join date" to "how many chicks he must be bangin'"...
How is y'all know so much and are not lotharios yet?
Albeit, I've noticed the over-analysis of trivial issues and frequency of some posters here and I know this dude's a geek talking sh!t behind close doors.
Confused.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I dunno about that, the way I see it most are here to better themselves. I guesstimate that at least 90% of the posters here, are here for help and do not really have their game on lock just yet. Maybe a handful of posters here might actually have decent game, the rest are just posting their own stories, thoughts and stuff. I do not view most on this site as any kind of authority on the matters of dating. Just because someone posts in an online forum does not make them an authority on anything. It only means they have a computer, an internet connection, and a mild interest in the subject matter.coochieman said:Wait a minute, SageProduct is a virgin too?
I remember NaughtyNinja sayin' [last year] that he was on a so-called "voluntary" 2 year dry-spell or so.
Packers.... talkin' some pathetic sh!z of recent too.
Cmon! This are dudes I "look up" too for advice here!
Don't wanna sound like an a$$ but...
I'm steady bangin', but I'm still gettin' mad cos I'm thinkin' y'all are havin' threesomes with nines and tens.
I think I some how (stupidly) relate the "number of posts" and "join date" to "how many chicks he must be bangin'"...
How do y'all know so much and are not lotharios yet?
Albeit, I've noticed the over-analysis of trivial issues and frequency of some posters here and I know this dude's a geek talking sh!t behind close doors.
Confused.
Yeah man, you can even learn from the bad advice. Everyone's opinion is important because it essentially creates what everyone else considers the norm if it's popular enough. Things that you may think don't matter at all, might be pretty important to to others for different reasons that you may have never considered before coming here. It allows you to be a more fair judge of your life and the things that affect it. This site is invaluable in my opinion when it comes to these things.Atom Smasher said:This is very true.
As a bit of an aside, I've found in life that very often an outside observer can give excellent, spot-on advice, even though if he were in the exact same situation, he would falter. Outside perspective absent the emotion can be very valuable, even from someone who doesn't entirely have his shizz together. Of course all must be taken with a grain of salt and evaluated carefully, as most here do.
I once posted a thread here on SS about "The Magic Story" by Frederick Van Rensselaer Dey. It's brilliant story within a story describing how a man can leverage his inner best self to acheive success. It's a classic and is very inspiring. I remember being shocked to hear that he eventually shot himself.
Here was a guy who had brilliant insight into success and personal transformation, but his emotions drove him to despair. He knew in theory how to succeed, but his wild imagination and need to appear successful caused him to pose as a wealthy magnate wherever he went. He allowed the temporary appearance of success (through self and other-deceit) to satisfy his ambition.
The lesson I take away from that is that I never dismiss advice from someone who is learning and is (at this stage of his development) unable to implement what he knows to be true.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Its always down to the true players to make all the moves. The coach can only do just that.VladPatton said:This site is sort of like a fat, out of shape coach that has lots of successful wins. He himself is a pathetic lard ass who can't see his own peen, but his knowledge leads the players to a win.
Was just about to ask you to post it up againAtom Smasher said:
He does not menstruate. He is a guy.ScottMustaine said:Why the **** are you writing in red ? Trying to remind yourself that your plate is about to have her period ?
My bad, I shouldn't and cannot complain since my game [& chest-size] has multiplied exponentially ever since I red-pilled [& SoSuaved too].SgtSplacker said:Yeah man, you can even learn from the bad advice. Everyone's opinion is important because it essentially creates what everyone else considers the norm if it's popular enough. Things that you may think don't matter at all, might be pretty important to to others for different reasons that you may have never considered before coming here. It allows you to be a more fair judge of your life and the things that affect it. This site is invaluable in my opinion when it comes to these things.
Seeing others go through the same stuff I have gone through really takes away any element of "why does this stuff only happen to me" and helps me identify where the issues really lay. Sometimes the one that needs to change is me!
I know this sounds like your woman softly coaxing you to spill flaws out so she can justify dumping you for the next alpha, but...sageproduct said:For the record though, I don't give advice. I might chime in on a topic of discussion to share my experiences or feelings, but never do I advise anyone.
Don't play nice, replace "this site" with "many posters".VladPatton said:This site is sort of like a fat, out of shape coach that has lots of successful wins. He himself is a pathetic lard ass who can't see his own peen, but his knowledge leads the players to a win.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This deserves a thread all on its own! Anyone else care to offer donations???BeginningDJ said:I would like to pledge $10 to the Sage: Cvmming of Age foundation.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.