sageproduct
Banned
Just kidding, April Fool's 
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Many of the guys here over-analyse too much.coochieman said:Wait a minute, SageProduct is a virgin too?
I remember NaughtyNinja sayin' [last year] that he was on a so-called "voluntary" 2 year dry-spell or so.
Packers.... talkin' some pathetic sh!z of recent too.
Cmon! This are dudes I "look up" too for advice here!
Don't wanna sound like an a$$ but...
I'm steady bangin', but I'm still gettin' mad cos I'm thinkin' y'all are havin' threesomes with nines and tens.
I think I some how (stupidly) relate the "number of posts" and "join date" to "how many chicks he must be bangin'"...
How is y'all know so much and are not lotharios yet?
Albeit, I've noticed the over-analysis of trivial issues and frequency of some posters here and I know this dude's a geek talking sh!t behind close doors.
Confused.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
I dunno about that, the way I see it most are here to better themselves. I guesstimate that at least 90% of the posters here, are here for help and do not really have their game on lock just yet. Maybe a handful of posters here might actually have decent game, the rest are just posting their own stories, thoughts and stuff. I do not view most on this site as any kind of authority on the matters of dating. Just because someone posts in an online forum does not make them an authority on anything. It only means they have a computer, an internet connection, and a mild interest in the subject matter.coochieman said:Wait a minute, SageProduct is a virgin too?
I remember NaughtyNinja sayin' [last year] that he was on a so-called "voluntary" 2 year dry-spell or so.
Packers.... talkin' some pathetic sh!z of recent too.
Cmon! This are dudes I "look up" too for advice here!
Don't wanna sound like an a$$ but...
I'm steady bangin', but I'm still gettin' mad cos I'm thinkin' y'all are havin' threesomes with nines and tens.
I think I some how (stupidly) relate the "number of posts" and "join date" to "how many chicks he must be bangin'"...
How do y'all know so much and are not lotharios yet?
Albeit, I've noticed the over-analysis of trivial issues and frequency of some posters here and I know this dude's a geek talking sh!t behind close doors.
Confused.
Yeah man, you can even learn from the bad advice. Everyone's opinion is important because it essentially creates what everyone else considers the norm if it's popular enough. Things that you may think don't matter at all, might be pretty important to to others for different reasons that you may have never considered before coming here. It allows you to be a more fair judge of your life and the things that affect it. This site is invaluable in my opinion when it comes to these things.Atom Smasher said:This is very true.
As a bit of an aside, I've found in life that very often an outside observer can give excellent, spot-on advice, even though if he were in the exact same situation, he would falter. Outside perspective absent the emotion can be very valuable, even from someone who doesn't entirely have his shizz together. Of course all must be taken with a grain of salt and evaluated carefully, as most here do.
I once posted a thread here on SS about "The Magic Story" by Frederick Van Rensselaer Dey. It's brilliant story within a story describing how a man can leverage his inner best self to acheive success. It's a classic and is very inspiring. I remember being shocked to hear that he eventually shot himself.
Here was a guy who had brilliant insight into success and personal transformation, but his emotions drove him to despair. He knew in theory how to succeed, but his wild imagination and need to appear successful caused him to pose as a wealthy magnate wherever he went. He allowed the temporary appearance of success (through self and other-deceit) to satisfy his ambition.
The lesson I take away from that is that I never dismiss advice from someone who is learning and is (at this stage of his development) unable to implement what he knows to be true.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Its always down to the true players to make all the moves. The coach can only do just that.VladPatton said:This site is sort of like a fat, out of shape coach that has lots of successful wins. He himself is a pathetic lard ass who can't see his own peen, but his knowledge leads the players to a win.
Was just about to ask you to post it up againAtom Smasher said:
He does not menstruate. He is a guy.ScottMustaine said:Why the **** are you writing in red ? Trying to remind yourself that your plate is about to have her period ?
My bad, I shouldn't and cannot complain since my game [& chest-size] has multiplied exponentially ever since I red-pilled [& SoSuaved too].SgtSplacker said:Yeah man, you can even learn from the bad advice. Everyone's opinion is important because it essentially creates what everyone else considers the norm if it's popular enough. Things that you may think don't matter at all, might be pretty important to to others for different reasons that you may have never considered before coming here. It allows you to be a more fair judge of your life and the things that affect it. This site is invaluable in my opinion when it comes to these things.
Seeing others go through the same stuff I have gone through really takes away any element of "why does this stuff only happen to me" and helps me identify where the issues really lay. Sometimes the one that needs to change is me!
I know this sounds like your woman softly coaxing you to spill flaws out so she can justify dumping you for the next alpha, but...sageproduct said:For the record though, I don't give advice. I might chime in on a topic of discussion to share my experiences or feelings, but never do I advise anyone.
Don't play nice, replace "this site" with "many posters".VladPatton said:This site is sort of like a fat, out of shape coach that has lots of successful wins. He himself is a pathetic lard ass who can't see his own peen, but his knowledge leads the players to a win.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
This deserves a thread all on its own! Anyone else care to offer donations???BeginningDJ said:I would like to pledge $10 to the Sage: Cvmming of Age foundation.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.