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When someone says you aren’t creating a ‘safe space’ but at the same time they wouldn’t give you an entire story straight, for instance withholding info to make you feel guilty or withholding info because they just don’t feel safe - in other words it’s chicken or egg but you get this feeling they’re just anxious and won’t admit it - I just find it numbing. Am I losing my mind here? Does anyone understand what I am saying? I find it really frustrating. It really pisses me off.
 

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Essentially they are judging all future experiences with men(including you), based on their previous experiences which are normally going to be with some sort of loser that caused a lot of trauma in their life and probably abused them in some way either verbally, emotionally or physically.

It's not fair, but that's their "fight or flight" response kicking in and unfortunately you get judged based on their previous experiences whether it's accuratr or not.

The only thing that I've found that can help in this situation is that you sit them down and let them know that you understand they may not have had the greatest relationships in the past and that may cloud their judgement of things that happen in the future but that you will not accept being judged by the failures of these other guys they were with, that you are your own man and that if she cannot judge you by your words , actions and that alone, then you will need to walk away from the situation because it's not fair to constantly be judged based on the previous failures of other men that have nothing to do with you.

Sometimes this forces them to actually see things more clearly, sometimes it causes them to run. If it causes them to run, be thankful because you dodged a bullet as they are someone who cannot see past their previous failures and will be tethered to them their entire life.
 
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Advice from the old lady:

Hmmm. There's more to it than that.

Safety really is top priority for a woman, especially if she is somewhere alone with you. Her past will have informed her about the behavior of other men, true, but its not only her past intimate relationships...its the way she has interacted with her father, her brothers, her uncles and grandfathers etc.

The vast majority of women learn as little girls to be indirect. Why? Most men can't handle real honesty AND most men are physically more dangerous than she is.

How is her drunk dad going to react to:

"Gee dad, you're an ass hole when you are wasted...."

I dunno....yelling, hitting, throwing things?

That does not create a "safe space" for her to be honest now does it?

Her comments indicate that something in your behavior OP is creating a WARNING! WARNING! sign in her sub-conscious. If you are getting this kind of feedback from more than one woman, then you are the common denominator and therefore quite possibly the culprit.

You said in your initial post that you get frustrated and pissed off. Not good. Control your emotions. Go read Glassguy's thread about that.
 

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How is her drunk dad going to react to:

"Gee dad, you're an ass hole when you are wasted...."

I dunno....yelling, hitting, throwing things?

That does not create a "safe space" for her to be honest now does it?
A woman can be honest without being verbally abusive BE. I don't know any man, drunk or sober, who would respond well to being called an "ass hole." Under any circumstance.

How about "dad, I feel scared when you drink so much." Or words similar. Same if it was her boyfriend. Sharing feelings without harsh criticism or being verbally abusive herself.

That said, I agree that if more than one woman states she doesn't feel safe then @Dw3 is likely the common denominator. Which he has admitted to in previous posts and dealing with. Therapy and meds.

I think we need more context with respect to what actually happened here or is happening. And why these women don't feel safe.

Do they mean emotionally safe? Like say if he incorporates too much distance or push/pull they may not feel emotionally safe.

If so I see no reason why a woman can't share her feelings about it calmly again without harsh criticism or verbal assaults (i.e. calling him an ass hole or other derogatory names).

If she means she doesn't feel physically safe, then she should just end the relationship.
 
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I just find it numbing. Am I losing my mind here? Does anyone understand what I am saying?
-Yeah, I understand what you're saying

-No, you're not losing your mind, and it's not just women and Woke Baes who are out to create so-called "safe spaces". Alt-Right forums and large sections of The Manosphere similarly serve as havens for group think

-Mild bright side: Each era has it's favored buzz words: During The 2000s we were all debating and defending "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques", and in The 90s we were sweating the entire nation being swallowed up by a tidal wave of "Super Predators". "Safe spaces" will never dissapear, nonetheless the fad's influence and popularity will bottom out at some point
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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When someone says you aren’t creating a ‘safe space’ but at the same time they wouldn’t give you an entire story straight, for instance withholding info to make you feel guilty or withholding info because they just don’t feel safe - in other words it’s chicken or egg but you get this feeling they’re just anxious and won’t admit it - I just find it numbing. Am I losing my mind here? Does anyone understand what I am saying? I find it really frustrating. It really pisses me off.
Re the title - thats 100% of women dude :D
Safe space is a great example of BS chick terminology.

her - “I need you to create a safe space. Where no judgement exists. Cos Im super anxious and really need to tell you something.”

him - “ ok I am there. This is a completely safe space. No judgement here.”

her - “phew…. Yeah so the thing is ..so yeah I fvcked your best friend!
…..
thank you so much for creating a safe space for me to tell you that. I feel so much better now.”

Lol
 
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A woman can be honest without being verbally abusive BE. I don't know any man, drunk or sober, who would respond well to being called an "ass hole." Under any circumstance.

How about "dad, I feel scared when you drink so much." Or words similar. Same if it was her boyfriend. Sharing feelings without harsh criticism or being verbally abusive herself.

That said, I agree that if more than one woman states she doesn't feel safe then @Dw3 is likely the common denominator. Which he has admitted to in previous posts and dealing with. Therapy and meds.

I think we need more context with respect to what actually happened here or is happening. And why these women don't feel safe.

Do they mean emotionally safe? Like say if he incorporates too much distance or push/pull they may not feel emotionally safe.

If so I see no reason why a woman can't share her feelings about it calmly again without harsh criticism or verbal assaults (i.e. calling him an ass hole or other derogatory names).

If she means she doesn't feel physically safe, then she should just end it...
The point you perhaps miss is that many Many MANY men cannot handle direct criticism, feedback, or being called out by a woman no matter how nice or syrupy she is about it. I simply use vastly over simplified examples so the men here can appreciate the concept.

Yes I can tell my husband directly if he is being an ass hole. I was able to tell my father too, and close male friends.....and honestly these men each knew that yup, they were being a d1ck, and often would chuckle & acknowledge that yes, that was true.

But these are men who I trust and am safe with, these are men who appreciate my candor (many men are too fragile to handle it), and finally and very importantly, these men know (knew in my late father's case) that I'm not going to dissect it and punish and whine/moan/complain about something. I'm going to say. Wow. That was an ass hole move. Don't do that again, its not cool.......

But my being able to say that in such a direct way comes out of the safety and respect which mutually exists in those interactions.

In my own personal relationships I don't need to dance around with flowery language. But I also get over & move past things. We all do stupid stuff and or say stupid things at times.

But my reality is not widely applicable in all situations. Many men cannot withstand ANY critique and have extremely fragile egos.

Women learn this very early and learn indirect communication as a result more often than not. Even your suggested alternative to the example I gave seeks to soften & make less direct the criticism.

If you have to do that you are dealing with a fragile ego, which demonstrates my point.
 

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The point you perhaps miss is that many Many MANY men cannot handle direct criticism, feedback, or being called out by a woman no matter how nice or syrupy she is about it. I simply use vastly over simplified examples so the men here can appreciate the concept.

Yes I can tell my husband directly if he is being an ass hole. I was able to tell my father too, and close male friends.....and honestly these men each knew that yup, they were being a d1ck, and often would chuckle & acknowledge that yes, that was true.

But these are men who I trust and am safe with, these are men who appreciate my candor (many men are too fragile to handle it), and finally and very importantly, these men know (knew in my late father's case) that I'm not going to dissect it and punish and whine/moan/complain about something. I'm going to say. Wow. That was an ass hole move. Don't do that again, its not cool.......

But my being able to say that in such a direct way comes out of the safety and respect which mutually exists in those interactions.

In my own personal relationships I don't need to dance around with flowery language. But I also get over & move past things. We all do stupid stuff and or say stupid things at times.

But my reality is not widely applicable in all situations. Many men cannot withstand ANY critique and have extremely fragile egos.

Women learn this very early and learn indirect communication as a result more often than not. Even your suggested alternative to the example I gave seeks to soften & make less direct the criticism.

If you have to do that you are dealing with a fragile ego, which demonstrates my point.
^^Thanks BE. I do get what you're saying and won't refute it since that's your experience. And perhaps even the experience of most or many women.

I'm not most women and I wasn't raised to verbally attack or berate men (or anyone) or angrily "call them out" when expressing negative emotions.

It's not because I fear their reaction or believe men can't handle criticism, it's because my temperament IS softer. More gentle. I'm soft- spoken and have a refined reserved demeanor which matches my soft feminine look and style.

That's me. I've learned to use 'I feel' comments, for example "I feel confused, I feel hurt or I feel sad or disappointed or scared or whatever emotion I'm feeling." I'm assertive but never aggressive.

Versus "You are an a**hole, you're being obtuse, you're stupid, you don't listen, YOU make me feel like crap! Like I've witnessed other women do.

This is what's natural for ME. Always has been.

It's served me well, all my boyfriends have appreciated it. Instead of an argument developing or them losing their shyt, typically I will receive an apology and I will apologize too for MY role when warranted.

I've never had an SO lose his shyt with me and I would never ever call my dad an a**hole under any circumstance - ever!

I have/had much too much respect for him for that (he's gone now). Same with boyfriends.

When I stop respecting them, I walk away and end the relationship. Perhaps too hastily at times and I'm working on that.

I realize your style and experiences and are different and that's okay!

Different strokes.
 
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You miss the nuance and seem to think I'm not feminine. Au contraire. More of a spitfire perhaps, but I do not going around calling people ass holes.

I'll say that (specific thing or behavior) was an ass hole thing.

That is very different than the name calling you allege.
 

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You miss the nuance and seem to think I'm not feminine.
There was no need to get defensive about that BE. It wasn't a criticism. Feminine can mean different things, your style is just different from mine that's all.

I actually respect how different we are and I've learned a lot from you. I've told you that.

I'll say that (specific thing or behavior) was an ass hole thing.
Appreciate the clarification.
 

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Does anyone understand what I am saying?
That's called hypocrisy.

By circumnavigating that crap you enter their frame. They know full well what they are doing, they are controlling you.

If you confront that bs behavior in a way that won't scare them off, they will enter your frame and fall in love with you.
 

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Re the title - thats 100% of women dude :D
Safe space is a great example of BS chick terminology.

her - “I need you to create a safe space. Where no judgement exists. Cos Im super anxious and really need to tell you something.”

him - “ ok I am there. This is a completely safe space. No judgement here.”

her - “phew…. Yeah so the thing is ..so yeah I fvcked your best friend!
…..
thank you so much for creating a safe space for me to tell you that. I feel so much better now.”

Lol
She can have a safe word so when I'm fvcking her ass too hard she can let me know and I can proceed to fvck it harder and tell her she is just going to have to take it like a good girl. :lol:
 

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We may haved reached gender parity on this front...

Witness the deification of a certain POTUS among many prominent figures in The Manosphere, and the intellectual contortions these fellas resort to, in their efforts to rationalize their delusion: "He's our guy, and he's special"

As opposed to saying what they REALLY mean outright: "I'm in emotional pain, and desperate for a savior who will relieve me of my discomfort. So that I don't have to engage in the perhaps disconcerting work of introspection/self-reflection, discovering that a fair amount of the misery I'm mired in isn't primarily the result of Gynocentrism, but my own distorted beliefs and the less than productive behaviors said beliefs have driven"
 

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We may haved reached gender parity on this front...

Witness the deification of a certain POTUS among many prominent figures in The Manosphere, and the intellectual contortions these fellas resort to, in their efforts to rationalize their delusion: "He's our guy, and he's special"

As opposed to saying what they REALLY mean outright: "I'm in emotional pain, and desperate for a savior who will relieve me of my discomfort. So that I don't have to engage in the perhaps disconcerting work of introspection/self-reflection, discovering that a fair amount of the misery I'm mired in isn't primarily the result of Gynocentrism, but my own distorted beliefs and the less than productive behaviors said beliefs have driven"
True this. Ya know, if the men of Weimar Germany felt this way, a certain Austrian painter never would've risen to power and we'd have had a unified communist Germany from the get-go instead. Got to man up!
 
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True this. Ya know, if the men of Weimar Germany felt this way, a certain Austrian painter never would've risen to power and we'd have had a unified communist Germany from the get-go instead. Got to man up!
Hey, I prefer the POTUS in question to the two adversaries he defeated. I'm also under no illusion that there's a Mahdi coming to Make Our Daily Lives Great Again... Many if not most of these "problems" we moderns pretend to be federal cases are really matters of human development and individual choice, the likes of which no Fuher or Caesar can remedy
 

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When someone says you aren’t creating a ‘safe space’ but at the same time they wouldn’t give you an entire story straight, for instance withholding info to make you feel guilty or withholding info because they just don’t feel safe - in other words it’s chicken or egg but you get this feeling they’re just anxious and won’t admit it - I just find it numbing. Am I losing my mind here? Does anyone understand what I am saying? I find it really frustrating. It really pisses me off.
Surprised with your experience you think like this. You seem to be confusing the issues.

If a woman says “she doesn’t feel safe”, then she doesn’t feel safe. Her withholding info or not giving an entire story has nothing to do with her feeling safe.
 

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Surprised with your experience you think like this. You seem to be confusing the issues.

If a woman says “she doesn’t feel safe”, then she doesn’t feel safe. Her withholding info or not giving an entire story has nothing to do with her feeling safe.
Appreciate you

I’m too close to the woman to see it straight.
 

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There is physical safety and emotional safety. One of my female coworkers always says, “you make everyone around you feel safe.” Meaning I have a track record of being someone that anyone can come to for help and collaboration without fear or hesitation. This same woman will confide in me with personal information because I will listen and provide feedback.

You might have reacted in a way that made her feel on alert for some reason. This can be subjective depending on the situation.

Since we naturally gravitate to what is familiar, a woman who chooses men poorly often will claim, “all men are jerks…”. No, you just like to pick assh0les because they emotionally stimulate you and that is familiar in some way, even if unhealthy.

“When I said this in the past, my old boyfriend would get mad. This new guy is a lot like him. I don’t feel safe …”
 

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You might have reacted in a way that made her feel on alert for some reason. This can be subjective depending on the situation.
As per OP's comment in October of last year, he had a physical altercation with his ex-girlfriend. This might be the root cause of her feeling unsafe.

What got us was continuous toxicity. The fight itself was me saying that my kids winter sports schedule looked a certain way. She said that I should slow down the scheduling because she was going to get overburdened. I said not your lane, please stop and got pretty aggravated. She kept going, I walked off called her a ***** and said she ruined another potentially good night. Two hours pass and she comes upstairs and gives me the silent treatment. I'm like what the fvck, can't we drop it. She's now digging in on my calling her a *****. So I'm like look, you are being one, you overstepped and you need to understand that I have three different ways to cover my schedule that don't involve you. She then laughs when I say my father can help and she's like, Oh go run to daddy. She laughs like really cold about my relationship with my father. My head explodes. I rip the covers off and push her out of the bedroom. She goes to sleep on the couch, I'm like no you need to leave. Take the blanket from the couch and chase her off the couch. She leaves, we basically don't speak since, except for a couple logistical texts. She slept in her car, neglected to book any of the nearby hotels and / or go to her apartment or her parents.
 
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