"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women made you mature

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There must have been women in your life who changed you forever.


Some may have treated you badly, they were cruel, selfish, manipulative.
Others were kind, supportive, feminine in that unique way only women can be, then friends, confidantes.


In either case, how much do you credit women for the ways you've changed and matured?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Women never "make" you do anything. They simply make you realize your shortcomings so YOU can fix them
 

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For me it wasn't so much as they changed me as it was they opened my eyes to who most of them are. I was a little naive to the ways of women until I got cheated on by my exwife and got into the dating world.

Most all of the women in my life taught me something.

The biggest lessons were they've taught me that marriage is pointless, and its never smart to partner with them on big financial things. Women lack personal accountability and don't look far enough down the road. Their emotions run their lives. This is why they aren't good business partners. There has always been some man that bailed them out.

Am I jaded?.....I don't believe so. I just know a relationship with one isn't going to last more than 7yrs so I always keep that in mind. They have too many options and they always think the grass is greener somewhere else. Social Media has fueled this effect. Removing sanctions society had placed on them in the 50's and 60's didn't help either.

The chaos in American society these days is what you see when you let women run the show. A bunch of drama and emotions.
 
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how much do you credit women for the ways you've changed and matured?
My wife comes from a loving and far more healthier family than me. She is loving, sacrificial, and caring too. So, coming from a high-tension background myself, expanding on other elements of my personality changed me.

Raising kids and running a household together matured me further after that.
 

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They play a part in how life is in a constant flux, but I wouldn't make them the top priority as you have family, potential friends and other associates who will change.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is why they aren't good business partners
My Uncle ran his company for 40 years with my Aunt by his side.
I would say he was the one who ran public relations, always busy and forgetful.
She was the calculator who ran her accounting firm.

It was a 10 hour a day job and to think that they also raised a family of 3 children, and they all grew up quite healthy.

There are exceptions to the rules
 
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I think the best matches are with significant age gaps. Like 25 year old female and 40 year old male. The truth is males and females evolve at different speeds.

A 25 year old female will treat a 27 year old male like he doesn’t know sht because he really doesn’t compared to her. But a 25 year old female recognizes that a 40 year old male has traits of maturity, life experience and sophistication she respects.

Society has mismatched age groups. Just 30 years ago it was common for an 17 year old girl to marry a 35 year old male. Today the same age span was forced into something taboo.
 

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I believe a lot in asymmetries, but also that similar attracts similar.
It's true, a younger woman always has more maturity than a man, at least for the initial stages, it's in their nature.

I also notice this when I am approached often by much younger women. 5/10 years.
I think it's a common thing for everyone here.
 

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There must have been women in your life who changed you forever.


Some may have treated you badly, they were cruel, selfish, manipulative.
Others were kind, supportive, feminine in that unique way only women can be, then friends, confidantes.


In either case, how much do you credit women for the ways you've changed and matured?
Maturity is something that only I can do myself, and I'm as mature or as immature as I want to be. The important thing is that I'm effective and think about the long term.
 

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Maturity is something that only I can do myself
And yet, you can learn it from the people around you.


How mature are the people you surround yourself with? You'll start becoming like them.


It's no coincidence that cities and suburbs have different ways of doing things.
They call them traditions.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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And yet, you can learn it from the people around you.
I like to observe people in crowded places. You'll noticed patterns if you're thinking critically, with enough observation.

How mature are the people you surround yourself with? You'll start becoming like them.
You can surround yourself with the people of your choice. You can also allow your environment to influence you if you don't have a strong enough ego.

It's no coincidence that cities and suburbs have different ways of doing things.
They call them traditions.
I'm not exactly sure what that means. People do what they must, should, and can do, and if not done rationally, suffer consequences.
 
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