California Love
Master Don Juan
Women and Men can be good friends with no sexual interest in the equation. Yes or No? Discuss.
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Women and Men can be friends
- Thread starter California Love
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
California Love
Master Don Juan
I should probably clarify. Yes, attractive women. Someone you would be enthusiastic about going places/doing things with.Originally posted by DJ24SEVEN
Shouldn't you say "attractive" women? Cause I was friends with plenty of 5s abd below.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
It happens hundreds of times a day to AFC that get trapped in the LJBF zone.
California Love
Master Don Juan
In this case, the AFC would be attracted.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
It happens hundreds of times a day to AFC that get trapped in the LJBF zone.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MindOverMatter
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I voted yes. As long as both sides have balanced lives (both are seeing people, having enough sex, etc), it's easy to maintain a friendship. If one side is unbalanced however (usually the guy) then you have a flawed friendship where one person wants more and the other one wants status quo.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
I agree with mindovermatter.
However if you have sex with someone..or date them for a short period.
and mutually lose that attraction for each other..and you have a fun time together..then you can be friends.
thats probably one of the best friends you will ever make..because it would keep you from being AFC with other women.
However if you have sex with someone..or date them for a short period.
and mutually lose that attraction for each other..and you have a fun time together..then you can be friends.
thats probably one of the best friends you will ever make..because it would keep you from being AFC with other women.