"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Punkisdead83

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So I've been texting this girl for a day or so and she constantly devalues herself. She refers to herself as boring, lame, not with it, etc. My instinct tells me she's trying to scare me off, yet she keeps sending me messages. What should be my next move?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I agree with Uncharted, but for the record, there is no reason a woman would degrade herself to keep you, just to push you away. However, these are all just words, so if she says yes to a date, then throw all that büllṣhit out the window.

Actions, not words, always.
 

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Asked her to meet up Friday. She's working and her dad is supposed to be visiting out of town. Keep the plate spinning and work on the next one?
 

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She had no counter offer? That's strike one. Ask again in the middle of next week to meet you for a drink/coffee (do NOT invest money into a date just yet). If she büllṣhits her way out of it again (without a counter offer) then that's all folks, and you walk away.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Punkisdead83

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VladPatton said:
She had no counter offer? That's strike one. Ask again in the middle of next week to meet you for a drink/coffee (do NOT invest money into a date just yet). If she büllṣhits her way out of it again (without a counter offer) then that's all folks, and you walk away.
Fair enough, will do. Still trying to get the hang of this stuff, thanks.!
 

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VladPatton said:
She had no counter offer? That's strike one. Ask again in the middle of next week to meet you for a drink/coffee (do NOT invest money into a date just yet). If she büllṣhits her way out of it again (without a counter offer) then that's all folks, and you walk away.

what do you mean do not invest money into a date just yet?
 

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VladPatton said:
She had no counter offer? That's strike one.
Yeah, lack of a counteroffer is a red flag. A counteroffer is fine as long as she sticks to it and doesn't keep pushing it further into the future.
 

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Man lowering his value.

Punkisdead83 said:
So I've been texting this girl for a day or so...
If you can text, you have her number and can call. You text because you're so afraid of rejection that you can't even talk. She smells this on you and she's attributing your bad qualities to herself because she's a woman and can't handle direct confrontation. Replace the "I'm" with "you're" and it becomes painfully obvious that punk is not dead -- you're the punk and you're punking out.

Next time, keep it all face-to-face convos. When you do call, make it strictly business: limit the call to the when/where of your next meeting. No texts, no Fakebook, no gossip through third parties -- no punking.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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