"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Why?
- Thread starter HandyAndy
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
KontrollerX
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Tick's take on things is spot on as well.
personally, i have figured that most broads want a piece of my meat muscle. i don't give it a second thought.
The ****? Why is someone being interested in a 16 year old such a big deal to you? Who the **** are you anyway? Atleast I'm learning this at a young age, what were you doing when you were 16? Playing video games all day?aldaris said:what kind of girl is interested in a 16 year old boy? most 16 year old girls like guys twice their age. is this a 10 year old that has a crush on you? that is really cute.
personally, i have figured that most broads want a piece of my meat muscle. i don't give it a second thought.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
MooseGod
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Are you by any chance a frat boy? Just seemed like the type...aldaris said:what kind of girl is interested in a 16 year old boy? most 16 year old girls like guys twice their age. is this a 10 year old that has a crush on you? that is really cute.
personally, i have figured that most broads want a piece of my meat muscle. i don't give it a second thought.
Don't let him have control of your emotions. He's only going to be laughing about it. Anyway, good luck with this chick.HandyAndy said:The ****? Why is someone being interested in a 16 year old such a big deal to you? Who the **** are you anyway? Atleast I'm learning this at a young age, what were you doing when you were 16? Playing video games all day?
Supremo
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The more chicks you get with, the more other girls will feel attracted to you (weird, how that works), and the less you'll feel this, which in turn, makes chicks like you more cause you don't come off as needy.
Quite the sentence above. But yeah you get the idea.
Yup, build a stable. Then once your stable is full, the rejection from chicks won't be so bad because you've got some waiting in the wings. It kills the desperation.Supremo said:Yeah Andy I know what you're sayin. This happened A LOT before I found the boards. It's basically just knowing that a girl "likes" you, so you feel flattered, and especially if you aren't really getting any action, you'll want to pursue it.
The more chicks you get with, the more other girls will feel attracted to you (weird, how that works), and the less you'll feel this, which in turn, makes chicks like you more cause you don't come off as needy.
Quite the sentence above. But yeah you get the idea.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
please! video game? i was a freaking video game when i was 16.HandyAndy said:The ****? Why is someone being interested in a 16 year old such a big deal to you? Who the **** are you anyway? Atleast I'm learning this at a young age, what were you doing when you were 16? Playing video games all day?
at 16 i was starting on varsity! 3rd game of the season i scored two touchdowns in one quarter! after that it was easy to pick-up chicks. daddies were giving me their daughters. mothers were checking me out. it was amazing. i was able to skip out of class when i wanted to as well. i would go down to the coach's office and shoot the bull like real men do. i ended up being first team all-newcomer for the entire city (2nd team all-newcomer for the state).
didn't hurt that i also had to shave twice a day and had enough hair on my chest to hide a family of four.
Well thats exactly it...the ones that you say dont show their interest are the ones that really want it, and theyre not making my life any easier by not giving me any signals to pick up ontick37 said:Maybe it's because you didn't know she was even an option. The girls who really want you usually don't show it because they don't want to look like a fool to you. The ones who come after you are usually the ones you should watch out for.
And aldaris, i dont give a crap about your football career, so gtfo of my thread
ready123
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fvckin hilarious
SickAgain
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everywomanshero
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It;s called reciprocity. We tend to like those who like us. Despite all this Jedi Ninja Super PUA talk where nerds fantasize about acting aloof and suddenly all the women are wanting them, a great deal of empirical evidence says that in general people like those who like them also.HandyAndy said:Why is it that when a girl shows interest you suddenly start to like her, when you never did before?
It;s just like anything else, in general people tend to mate with those who are similar to them, but one can always point out the minority of examples that would suggest the opposite. Social science is about averages.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
DonGorgon
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say hello smile and flirt... Make eye contact... touch their hands... then back off.... then you should be inHandyAndy said:OK thanks for the advice but how can I go about talking to the girls that are showing interest, i always get nervous, i care about what they think of me and all
Easier said than done, shes been showing interest for so long and ive held back for so long that im starting to care what she thinks about me, we constantly lock eyes in class but nothing more, becuase im just too nervouDonGorgon said:say hello smile and flirt... Make eye contact... touch their hands... then back off.... then you should be in
If you don't make a move, she'll think you're a wimp. Does that help? She'll just move on to the next decent guy that gives her attention because she's single and she can.HandyAndy said:Easier said than done, shes been showing interest for so long and ive held back for so long that im starting to care what she thinks about me, we constantly lock eyes in class but nothing more, becuase im just too nervou
Well during class, im always talking to other girls and having a good time with them, laughing and all...does she get jealous? If so, does her being jealous change the game or not?tick37 said:If you don't make a move, she'll think you're a wimp. Does that help? She'll just move on to the next decent guy that gives her attention because she's single and she can.
ARrocket
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Yeah, it makes her jealous, but still, if you don't act, she'll just assume you don't like her.HandyAndy said:Well during class, im always talking to other girls and having a good time with them, laughing and all...does she get jealous? If so, does her being jealous change the game or not?
Happened to me TOO many times.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.