"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why women flake

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I found your video to be reasonably interesting and informative. Not sure you do yourself that many favours by constantly referring to them as "b*tches" - it kind of takes something away from what you're saying IMHO.
 

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what a pessimistic view, "She got a better deal".

I'm tall and handsome and I get plenty of flakes. You got to make these girls fall in love with you nowadays. I'm glad about the Winter/Summer thing though.

We should all be getting less flakes during the winter time.
 

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I agree that often she cancels because she got a better deal, but not 99%.

A good percentage of the time they simply believe they could get a better deal.

Other times they just don't feel it (yet), as Chamber36 noted. For example, if they recently got dumped, they have one-itis for their ex and it takes time to overcome that.

As noted in the video, when they are interested, they will offer to make other plans.

I also agree that you have to make them work for it to see you again if they cancel (especially if they cancel twice). For example they send you 6 straight text messages, or offer to do something "to make it up to you".
 

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Sparky said:
I found your video to be reasonably interesting and informative. Not sure you do yourself that many favours by constantly referring to them as "b*tches" - it kind of takes something away from what you're saying IMHO.
Thanks!

Yeah I noticed that some of the guys on here don't like the word.

I find that curious.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Chamber36 said:
what a pessimistic view, "She got a better deal".

I'm tall and handsome and I get plenty of flakes. You got to make these girls fall in love with you nowadays. I'm glad about the Winter/Summer thing though.

We should all be getting less flakes during the winter time.
You have an advantage over most men. You might be getting flakes because women are finding guys with your attributes PLUS

1. Game (getting a girl to fall in love)
2. Money


There will always be someone _____ than you.
 

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bigneil said:
I agree that often she cancels because she got a better deal, but not 99%.

A good percentage of the time they simply believe they could get a better deal.

Other times they just don't feel it (yet), as Chamber36 noted. For example, if they recently got dumped, they have one-itis for their ex and it takes time to overcome that.

As noted in the video, when they are interested, they will offer to make other plans.

I also agree that you have to make them work for it to see you again if they cancel (especially if they cancel twice). For example they send you 6 straight text messages, or offer to do something "to make it up to you".

Good point. American woman are exceptionally spoiled and even a fat bugga bear THINKS she can do better.
 

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Thanks!

Yeah I noticed that some of the guys on here don't like the word.

I find that curious.
Could be because I'm from the UK. Here in the UK if you say "B8tches" it either comes across as extremely derogatory or makes people sound like complete idiots through trying to sound like wannabe American Gangsters. It's only really used to refer to a woman that is nasty by nature. Probably a cultural difference.

Also - I didn't say I didn't LIKE the word. It has it's place. But to just refer to any woman as a b*tch I think makes the talker sound a bit naive.
 

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I'm from the UK, not remotely into 'gangsta' culture and am totally happy with the word '*****'. I accept that it's derogatory but don't see an issue with that.
 

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bigneil said:
Other times they just don't feel it (yet), as Chamber36 noted. For example, if they recently got dumped, they have one-itis for their ex and it takes time to overcome that.

As noted in the video, when they are interested, they will offer to make other plans.
A similar scenario is playing off with me. A girl I met when she had a BF, and we liked each other and hung out a few times, but I never managed to kiss her.

Well she's my type. Anyway I made plans with her a few weeks ago. She flaked because she said she was tired. But just last saturday she came to see if I was working. I haven't contacted her yet since I've been busy with Uni, but I guess i should strike while the iron is hot.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Sparky said:
Could be because I'm from the UK. Here in the UK if you say "B8tches" it either comes across as extremely derogatory or makes people sound like complete idiots through trying to sound like wannabe American Gangsters. It's only really used to refer to a woman that is nasty by nature. Probably a cultural difference.

Also - I didn't say I didn't LIKE the word. It has it's place. But to just refer to any woman as a b*tch I think makes the talker sound a bit naive.
I agree. Maybe it is a uk thing, but it does sound like something impressionable teenagers would say, trying to sound bad and "gangsta".

As for the video, it's too cynical for my liking. Although a lot of flaking does come down to another guy, no doubt, it's not a universal answer. There are a lot of reasons women flake and I've found that lack of rapport and trust are very common reasons too.
 

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lack of trust. That's a pretty heavy subject you're mentioning there. It probably accounts for 40% of my flakes. Another 30% would go to being too needy. And the last 30, I got no clue.
 

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I'm from the UK, not remotely into 'gangsta' culture and am totally happy with the word '*****'. I accept that it's derogatory but don't see an issue with that.
I'm happy with it, adn have known many of them, I was just trying to point out to the OP that by saying it all the time for no reason, it makes whoever's saying it sound like a bit of a d*ck.

A lot of women flake because they probably had no intention of ever following it through in the first place. They just liked the attention they receive when you ask for the number and ask them out etc. - proves to them that they're still attractive.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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women have 10000000 F options you have 1 if you are lucky.. thats why..
Yep. The onus is on U, and You, and Yoo. Now, I don't care How good you look, You, as a man, Must pursue, cause women, now more than ever, are Not going to seek You out at all. They are getting bombarded with "offers" ALL the time. I mean ALLLLL the time. I have just friends (or girls I've fvcked up with who I still talk to) that tell me that guys will hit on them at the gas pump, and they're relentless asking for her number (while all she's thinking is when will this pump ever finish..it's so god-damed slow!!").

Girls Everywhere are getting hounded.

I've got one however, who knows of me through friends (who I've known well for 6 or 7 years solid) who is pursuing me (for marriage, she has a boy, and is a young widow 8 yrs younger than I). The reason she wants to marry me is manifold, but here are the main ones (she's very cute and thin btw, but looks as though she's been in grief for couple of years because of her husband's abrupt death): 1) Friends in common 2) Our families (mothers and fathers/grandparents) all live close to one another - we could visit them simultaneously or in one plane trip; we live 1000 miles away from all of them but, just by coincidence, we grew up in the same area long ago 3) My job, which is cool, pays well, and could take care of her and her son with ease; She doesn't work, however, her house is double the price/size of mine (life insurance from husband's death?) 4) I'm fit and good-looking despite my age 5) Friends in common again

All the other women, I have to pursue almost Always. They NEVER initiate or even Look for a great guy like me. I'm invisible to them Unless I go Way outta my way to make an impression or cause a disturbance in her life. They're never on the make, they're to busy fielding offers and solicitations from guys. They are being hit-on constantly, and if you're with her or fvck her, she's got another guy she's with too recently and probably fvcking too, and that guy as well as another and another is MOST DEFINITELY feeding her whittle brain with negative ideas about YOU, even if the dude has never even met you. Guys ALWAYS bad-mouth ANY other guy in her life when they're around her alone. They'll try to bend her mind Totally towards themselves, to manipulate, to control, to direct All her focus on them individually. This is a constant and non-stopping slew of attempts by different guys day in and day out to gain control of her mind, to make her mind give her body to Him.

I'm not necessarily like that, but I see that she has what I want. She has what he wants, and him and him and him and him. She's lifted up. Her pvssy is lifted up for the purposes of fvcking daily. She's weak. It's her nature. She can't help it. May the best man win. But even if the best man wins, he will have a H3ll of a time winning with the SAME mind which gives over her pvssy again and again as they Live with one another, sleep with one another, and eat, and share a bathroom, do chores, shop, visit family, tend the kids, the dog, bedroom talk, kitchen talk, yard talk, school talk, work talk...it's a will of minds to keep her on the straight and narrow i.e. constantly focused on You. With so many guys hitting on her wherever she goes (even if she's married or makes it known she is, guys don't care today, guys are aggressive as fvck now with the comons, the leering, the catcalling, the number asking; if she's angry with you while out away from you, she could very well and easily cheat on you - YOU, on the other hand, would find it very hard to cheat quickly, unless you paid a hooker or something).
 

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Very much agree with everyone on the fact that they always think they could do better by giving pu$sy to more worthy men (delusional thinking at times) or that they have no intent on coming out, ever. This flaking is increasing their value artificially.
 

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TheAsianLoverReturns said:
Thanks!

Yeah I noticed that some of the guys on here don't like the word.

I find that curious.
word up

Personally I use it as a term of endearment

Most women aren't bothered by it in my experience

The C word is the one they don't like
 

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word up

Personally I use it as a term of endearment

Most women aren't bothered by it in my experience

The C word is the one they don't like
Yeah b*tches really hate being called c*nt. I never understood that.
 

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Video is too simplistic. Calling all women '*****es' makes you come across as angry and misogynistic, which is slightly unfair since you do raise some valid points.
Now that's interesting, especially the misogynistic part.

What was your relationship with your mother like? Did she tell you that you had to be a gentleman and hold the door for "ladies" and always pay?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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