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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Why women don't fall for nice guys

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I want everyone to get involved in this thread. Add on to the post of why women don't fall for nice guys.

Women don't fall for nice guys because they are too predictable
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Basically they're desperate and needy.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
quote from a hb, "That guy is really nice, but it's like there's no game to it when he acts like a lovesick puppy dog."
absolutely. there's nothing attractive about the nice guy. they don't have backbone etc..
 

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B-o-r-i-n-g..... P-r-e-d-i-c-t-a-b-l-e...... D-i-s-p-a-s-s-i-o-n-a-t-e...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Is afraid of himself, and afraid of being himself in front of the woman he is attracted to.
 

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Nice guys are phonies. They want to be aggressive with women but are afraid the girl will think he's a "jerk"... (which is what he wants to be anyway), so he suppresses his natural urges in an approval-seeking way. He never does what he really WANTS to do, but what he thinks he "should" do.

This NEVER gets healthy postive results, so while he continues to be a phony, never being himself, those urges stay buried underneath... and they will explode eventually. The sweet puppy dog who is so nice to the girl, when he doesn't get what he wants, can suddenly become a vindictive, cruel bastard, and turn into a jerk... but not the cool, fun, ****y, confident jerk women are attracted to, but a needy, morose, clingy, destructive, bitter "non man" (yes I know of what I speak).

And this is where the nice guy stuff just has to stop... this term is getting over used (no offense to the OP) and is misleading guys who are mistaking it for not having common courtesy.

It's not that. I think women WANT guys who are kind and who treat them well (unless they are insecure, and you don't want those girls anyway). But what they NEED in ADDITION to that is a guy who can indeed just be himself... meaning he says and does what he wants, he goes after what he wants, he is a GENUINE person, he has the ability to affect positive change in his life, and on top of that, he enjoys the company of the girl he's with to the extent that she treats him as well as he treats himself AND others.

Now does the guy I just described sound like a jerk? No, and he's not a "nice guy" either. The guy I just described, the guy we all want to be (many here are already there) wouldn't even dream of supplicating to a woman. How could he? He's too confident and self-assured. Supplicating probably would never cross his mind, kind of like if he didn't know Spanish he wouldn't start thinking in Spanish.

This dude gets what he wants, and has no problem greeting people with a warm smile or helping someone in need, and doing his best not to intentionally hurt someone else.
 

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Manipulative. Two-faced. Doesn't have the ballz to act like he is when around his buddies, puts on a fake act to try to impress women.
 

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Usually he hasn't embraced his Maculinity.
And has serious problems viewing women as Sexual Beings.
He's uncomfortable with displays of women's sexuality, and is uncomfortabel with his own sexuality.
 

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Interceptor said:
Usually he hasn't embraced his Maculinity.
And has serious problems viewing women as Sexual Beings.
He's uncomfortable with displays of women's sexuality, and is uncomfortabel with his own sexuality.

This is all true... I think it all is based on embracing his Masculinity. Everything you mentioned is created from that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Only applies when "nice" is being used as a polite euphemism for "spineless," "boring," "predictable," "no challenge," or any of the other undesirable traits listed above.

The best macks I know are nice, but also fun, and stick to their guns.
 

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Sorry guys but I gotta disagree with the lot of ya [exept reset].
I think this is abit of a myth that goes on in these forums. I mean if you have strong inner-game you can be a "nice guy" and get plenty of pusy. The bad ass guy certainly gets pusy, but he is a jerk, a moron, they just have a "couldn't give a f*ck" attitude. I have this attitude, but I'm also a nice guy.
 

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Sexybeast, you are using the wrong meaning for this term as used here in this forum.
And as many of us here, have noted women use the term.
We use the term "Nice Guy" to mean the explanations mentioned above.
Just becasue we are not fond of the nice guy tag, and don't wish to be the "nice guy" does not automatically imply that we are and want to be the "bad guy".
Anyway, we all agree on your criteria, but you are misconstruing our label, the dreaded term "Nice Guy.'
Trust us, you don't want to be it.

Look, put plainly, the term "Nice Guy" is generally considered an insult.
Sorry, but it's the truth.

Look up other threads for more info on what we perceive the ideal "Guy" to be.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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sexybeast said:
Sorry guys but I gotta disagree with the lot of ya [exept reset].
I think this is abit of a myth that goes on in these forums. I mean if you have strong inner-game you can be a "nice guy" and get plenty of pusy. The bad ass guy certainly gets pusy, but he is a jerk, a moron, they just have a "couldn't give a f*ck" attitude. I have this attitude, but I'm also a nice guy.
Ask a woman how long a nice guy would hold her interest.
 

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lol I see where you are coming from, i will have a look around.

So if you guys wish not to be the "nice guys" nor the "bad guy" what isit you guys label it as?

Because the way I see it is we should be the "nice guy" with all the qualities girls find attractive mixed in. Unless you are a bad ass by nuture, but I dont think many guys in the community actually are.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Ask a woman how long a nice guy would hold her interest.
Well most would probably lie through there teeth and say thats what they long for, but I know where your coming from.
 

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sexybeast said:
Well most would probably lie through there teeth and say thats what they long for, but I know where your coming from.
No, I'm serious. Next time you are in a club go up to a group of women (yes, this is an approach) and ask them what they like about "nice guys." They'll start describing all of the things that guys do that makes them AFC's. Then ask them if they could see themselves having a LTR with a nice guy (who didn't get them pregnant). You will be surprised at the things that women will tell you if you ask the right questions.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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