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Why has the industrialized world failed to solve the low population birth problem?

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This has been an issue since the late 20th century and now you are starting to see the US and even China get affected by it. Why has this problem been put under the sand for so long?
 

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Earth's population continues to rise, so it's challenging to make that case.

The United States had a population of 250 million in 1990 and now is over 330 million.
 

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Earth's population continues to rise, so it's challenging to make that case.

The United States had a population of 250 million in 1990 and now is over 330 million.
Yeah that's why I specified the industrialized world.

List of countries by total fertility rate - Wikipedia

The countries above the replacement rate of 2.1 are mostly unindustrialized countries or semi-industrialized. The US was able to escape it for that long due to immigration and a diverse population base that was previously institutionally discriminated. Now, the immigration dream is coming to an end and those previously discriminated groups are climbing up the wealth ladder. However, it is not like this was a complete curveball thrown at the US because it was already happening in other developed countries.
 
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The root cause is that in general, women just don't like most men, but in generations past they had to put up with most men because of economics and the social zeitgeist. When women don't like the available men, they don't feel like getting pregnant.

Aaron Clarey of course has a video about this:

The long version:


The short version:

 

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The root cause is that in general, women just don't like most men, but in generations past they had to put up with most men because of economics and the social zeitgeist. When women don't like the available men, they don't feel like getting pregnant.

Aaron Clarey of course has a video about this:

The long version:


The short version:

Well I don't like most woman other than for the thing in between their legs, so I guess it makes sense.
 

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They contacted me for my superior sperm and I had to tell them I had a vasectomy, so they scrapped their plan to populate the earth with beautiful children..
 

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If you want the world population at only 500 million, it helps to reduce the proportion of the segment likely to be the most resistant to the agenda.
 

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The root cause is that in general, women just don't like most men, but in generations past they had to put up with most men because of economics and the social zeitgeist. When women don't like the available men, they don't feel like getting pregnant.

Aaron Clarey of course has a video about this:

The long version:


The short version:

Here's another one, of intermediate length:

 

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Much of western culture teaches women that getting pregnant while young or even marrying while young is as waste of an opportunity to be successful in life. Likewise, men see a child as a financial burden due to a legal obligation to pay child support (Even married couples are often scared to have children due to a fear of not being able to afford the expense.). Third world nations are not as encouraged to perform contraceptive practices, since most of the populace is in poverty with or without children. If you live in a small farming village, every child is essentially a future laborer; so there is an incentive to make more children.
 

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This has been an issue since the late 20th century and now you are starting to see the US and even China get affected by it. Why has this problem been put under the sand for so long?
1. High cost of raising children.
2. Full-time female employment is prioritized over being a stay at home mom.
3. Delayed motherhood for the sake of pursing education opportunities and other "self-realization" goals is encouraged.
4. Homosexuality and transgenderism are promoted as acceptable (or even preferable) lifestyle choices.
5. Legal system that encourages divorce and creates fierce custody battles.

Those are some of the main reasons.
 
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Well, its been said plenty of times. If you look closely you'll see that earth been controlled by a bunch of beta males. The best example that comes to mind is that Facebook movie. Remember how they suddenly were swimming in punani?

There are some men at the " top" who try to get as many women as possible for themselves. The price is the destruction of western society to fulfill their own desires and mostly lusts. Its the ultimate schadenfreude.

Thats why women are manipulated the way they are, to all chase the top 10% of men. And men on the other hand are manipulated to become p0rn addicts so they either lose their manly frame OR even worst, they become ghey/ trans supporters ( a one way Pandoras box ticket.)

Sounds crazy I know. Look, a REAL congruent man doesn't have the need to feck as many women as possible. A real man rather works on his legacy. In order to build a strong legacy you need a strong society, that's flourishing and growing and is safe for all, especially his offspring and parents. A real man doesn't mind and is even happy when his fellow man is happy too!

We as westerners will pay the price BIG time tho..there's a reason why Match llc Group owns every dating app...because as i said, womem are easily manipulated due to their "curiosity ", and they refuse to take responsibility to really make sure people match accordingly. Its not JUST about money..dont let that narrative fool you. Its about total control of every one and everything . New world order baby
 

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People are too busy with everything else going on to have sex. I mean it's gotten to the point some people schedule sex on their calendar.

When there was nothing to do after dark it was a lot easier to find something to do with the other person.

Now that time is taken up with your phone, being out, watching TV, doing work, etc. And even if they aren't doing any of that, many times they are too burnt out and exhausted from the never ending work day to want to do anything other than relax and sleep.

Not rocket science. Less expensive equals less births. More people on birth control means fewer potential offspring that happen "by mistake".
 

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It's top down and intentional.

Singapore promoted feminism to intentionally reduce their birthrate in the 1980's. Bill Gates is just one of many promoting depopulation actively. Yuval Harari and Klaus Schwab are promoting depopulation through sedation (computer games and drugs).

Even MIT produced one of the "Earth is unsustainable and collapse is imminent" types of propaganda films back in the 1970's (link). The film explicitly states at the end that they need to convince not just the lower classes not to reproduce but to control the birth rates of everyone, saying disease, war, and famine are good for pruning a population. They say that if we don't stop reproducing then we'll run out of copper, zinc, silver, iron, and other materials by 1997. Scary music and all.

Of course, a prize should go to anyone here who can find an article, film, or book that speaks about overpopulation with someone other than Europeans in mind. I've never seen one. Africa and the Middle East have enjoyed a very high birth rate thanks to Western foreign aid for 60 years now.

I think too many people look at this from the bottom-up instead of top-down perspective. How about we just admit that the people in charge of us have goals that harm us and know what they're doing instead of just continuously excusing them as "incompetent" and "stupid." If Gates is travelling the West talking about eg. eliminating meat from our diets and then he buys a bunch of farmland, then I'm going to assume the man has a goal and it's taking effect. Especially when multiple diary, beef, and chicken farms start running out of business within a 5 year span all of a sudden from out of nowhere.
 
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I actually blame feminism for this. They have consistently told women that they are valued for things other than being a wife and mother, and that wife/mother is just the oppression of patriarchy.

There are many factors that lead into this, but feminism and prioritizing female education are the chief causes of this.

You can even look into birth rate by demographic and age. The less educated a woman is, the more children she is likely to have.

Idiocracy was more prophetic than we thought.
 

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China had a program where they cloned some sheep and magically created a bunch of 7 foot tall dudes with genius level intellect, if that's any indication of the future then who really knows, China is also set to be the first country to really hit the population drop off.

Will be interesting to see.

Personally I can't wait for a time when men can procreate without women at all, I really don't understand where they'll fit once we require labour jobs and AI is gonna fill everything else.
 

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The birth control pill is the answer and the culprit.

People no longer need to have children as labor for their own survival. The richer and more advanced a country becomes, the less fertile they are. That's just a reality of how it works.

Kids are also really expensive. Especially when mommy decides that her career is more important and the kids are shipped off to daycare.

There is nothing to solve. We're living in the slowdown of human population growth. We'll adapt as we always have. If we can avoid destroying ourselves, automation will fill in the gap.

As far as I'm concerned, the less people in the world, the better.
 
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