Burrito Supreme
Don Juan
I'm sorry if I have class for admitting a mistake.ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
Another secret to a healthy relationship.
Better add that one to your bible.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I'm sorry if I have class for admitting a mistake.ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
-To save faceiqqi said:I am going to keep this extremely bare of a question, before I go deeper into what is on my mind. The only structure I want to give to this discussion at this point, is that I mean Man, as in men. I am well aware all people lie, but I'd like to focus on the reason men lie.
Discuss.
Thanks a lot, TM. Great way to fan the fire I just put out!!!ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
Yeah the only person to start flaming was Burrito. Iqqi tried to project the blame on me. I was giving her good advice, if she can't see it or doesn't like how I delivered then screw her. Wasting my time.ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
iqqi said:Thanks a lot, TM. Great way to fan the fire I just put out!!!
Please, no more flames or jerks or insults. Or responses to such. There is a nice little thread on the main forum where that is welcomed right now. Thanks.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Thank you for your unsolicited (female) advice.Burrito Supreme said:Theres no shame in needing a helping hand, thus coming to this board for advice, but keeping that mentality that you have towards women will not help improve yourself.
Purple-Haze said:Fine. I'd like to play.
Why do men lie? I know some do because it's purely an ego thing. Some men are so insecure that they lie about the smallest things. I believe it is the "need to impress" motive working here.
Poor fools. They don't realize that eventually they'll be found out.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You can't just sit there with a woman and be silent, can you? That feels awkward as hell.reset said:Strong and silent. Why say shyt you don't want to?
reset said:Sexual tension, it's good for you. They'll break it.
My point was, why REVEAL things that you think are none of her business. You're not lying. She can mind her own damn business.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Men don't know why OTHER men lie.iqqi said:Men don't know why they lie!
Phyzzle, isn't that what you were saying earlier?
What does any of this stuff about DRUGS have to do with a "man lying"??? I see no example of any lie there. It just seems like any time you talk about your own life, it devolves into non-sequitors (latin for "it does not follow"). You just start giving off random, unrelated snippets of conversation, or saying that "he totally wanted to make a move on me, but he couldn't because he's my best friend's cousin's brother." Just stuff that might make sense in your head, but doesn't make sense when you say it aloud.Then we got on the subject of a guy who told me he used to do drugs, but stopped when he realized it was get hooked, or give it up. Her response was "It is NOT that easy. He probably WANTS to be that guy..."
Which brought it back to the first thing she said.
Hi Phyzzle fo shizzle.Phyzzle said:...What does any of this stuff about DRUGS have to do with a "man lying"??? I see no example of any lie there. It just seems like any time you talk about your own life, it devolves into non-sequitors (latin for "it does not follow"). You just start giving off random, unrelated snippets of conversation, or saying that "he totally wanted to make a move on me, but he couldn't because he's my best friend's cousin's brother." Just stuff that might make sense in your head, but doesn't make sense when you say it aloud.
Anyways, if you would like a different point of view on events in your life, tell us the events in your life. Then log out, let us rip it to shreds and tell you what a tool you are, and check in the next day or something. There is no need to respond to every post given in a critical tone, with new details, non-sequitor nonsense, or castigations of the negative tone. I see you're trying to avoid being ripped up by not telling us any story. But you're not going to get any (fun or interesting) feedback. "Why do men lie" is a very simple question that has already been answered numerous times.
1. Avoiding Punishment
2. Gaining Attention (probably the case here)
3. Defrauding
4. Just Plain Crazy
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.