Burrito Supreme
Don Juan
I'm sorry if I have class for admitting a mistake.ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
Another secret to a healthy relationship.
Better add that one to your bible.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I'm sorry if I have class for admitting a mistake.ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
-To save faceiqqi said:I am going to keep this extremely bare of a question, before I go deeper into what is on my mind. The only structure I want to give to this discussion at this point, is that I mean Man, as in men. I am well aware all people lie, but I'd like to focus on the reason men lie.
Discuss.
Thanks a lot, TM. Great way to fan the fire I just put out!!!ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
Yeah the only person to start flaming was Burrito. Iqqi tried to project the blame on me. I was giving her good advice, if she can't see it or doesn't like how I delivered then screw her. Wasting my time.ThunderMaverick said:Shouldn't one of us be saying that to YOU?
You beat us to the punch.
Jerk.
iqqi said:Thanks a lot, TM. Great way to fan the fire I just put out!!!
Please, no more flames or jerks or insults. Or responses to such. There is a nice little thread on the main forum where that is welcomed right now. Thanks.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Thank you for your unsolicited (female) advice.Burrito Supreme said:Theres no shame in needing a helping hand, thus coming to this board for advice, but keeping that mentality that you have towards women will not help improve yourself.
Purple-Haze said:Fine. I'd like to play.
Why do men lie? I know some do because it's purely an ego thing. Some men are so insecure that they lie about the smallest things. I believe it is the "need to impress" motive working here.
Poor fools. They don't realize that eventually they'll be found out.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You can't just sit there with a woman and be silent, can you? That feels awkward as hell.reset said:Strong and silent. Why say shyt you don't want to?
reset said:Sexual tension, it's good for you. They'll break it.
My point was, why REVEAL things that you think are none of her business. You're not lying. She can mind her own damn business.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Men don't know why OTHER men lie.iqqi said:Men don't know why they lie!
Phyzzle, isn't that what you were saying earlier?
What does any of this stuff about DRUGS have to do with a "man lying"??? I see no example of any lie there. It just seems like any time you talk about your own life, it devolves into non-sequitors (latin for "it does not follow"). You just start giving off random, unrelated snippets of conversation, or saying that "he totally wanted to make a move on me, but he couldn't because he's my best friend's cousin's brother." Just stuff that might make sense in your head, but doesn't make sense when you say it aloud.Then we got on the subject of a guy who told me he used to do drugs, but stopped when he realized it was get hooked, or give it up. Her response was "It is NOT that easy. He probably WANTS to be that guy..."
Which brought it back to the first thing she said.
Hi Phyzzle fo shizzle.Phyzzle said:...What does any of this stuff about DRUGS have to do with a "man lying"??? I see no example of any lie there. It just seems like any time you talk about your own life, it devolves into non-sequitors (latin for "it does not follow"). You just start giving off random, unrelated snippets of conversation, or saying that "he totally wanted to make a move on me, but he couldn't because he's my best friend's cousin's brother." Just stuff that might make sense in your head, but doesn't make sense when you say it aloud.
Anyways, if you would like a different point of view on events in your life, tell us the events in your life. Then log out, let us rip it to shreds and tell you what a tool you are, and check in the next day or something. There is no need to respond to every post given in a critical tone, with new details, non-sequitor nonsense, or castigations of the negative tone. I see you're trying to avoid being ripped up by not telling us any story. But you're not going to get any (fun or interesting) feedback. "Why do men lie" is a very simple question that has already been answered numerous times.
1. Avoiding Punishment
2. Gaining Attention (probably the case here)
3. Defrauding
4. Just Plain Crazy
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.