"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Why do women expect men to pay all the time?
- Thread starter Crissco
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
KarmaSutra
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Before dinner.
Crissco
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Thank you!! Thank you!! Exactly...Esp if its the first time meeting, ide rather just split it.KarmaSutra said:
We went bowling, she bought me a beer, split the bowling, then dinner, split dinner, had her laughing the whole time, she kept asking me about my self, we had ALOT in common, had a good time overall. I went to kiss her at the end, she goes nope, since you didnt pay im not kissing you. Then afterwords got into a debate about that. She also mentioned our age difference about 3 diffrent times. I think that was the real reason, yet she still agreed to go out with me even when we didnt talk on the phone once.
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There are far more inexperienced (i.e. desperate) guys who will gladly pony up their weeks worth of work pay as payment for a woman's time.
It's what separates men such as we, who dig a pool in that ass before she buys us steak au' poivre. And the men who women send home to jack off into a batch rag.
Crissco
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Everything was going great though, I invited her back to hangout in my backyard, which always works. She goes no I dont know u well enough. Maybe she was in it just for the free ****? Which she didnt even get lol.KarmaSutra said:
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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Crissco
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She ended getting my attention, thats bc she was hot and a good personality but I still didnt pay, we split it. I usually pay CERTIAN things in the second date. BC that shows were both still interested and want to take this further. I usually try to use it as rewards after I fu(k themrunner83 said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
So the money we spent on fuel or that goddam fashion clothes dont count?Doreen said:
Wants to make a deal? I pay for the make up you pay the fuel for the date?
Btw men dont usually give a damn how u're dressed, thats female and their crappy "I dont like that shoes so he is off".
And we're fine paying as long as she reciprocate giving head... men are not some kind of expendable good placed to make womens life more interesting.
Not that I'd pay for their company, I could do that with a prostitute. If that makes sense!
Crissco
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I understand where ur coming from, but read my last post...Plus the fact is I dont really need anyones company besides my own. I know how to have fun by my self. Everyone around me is just a bonusHtienvu said:
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
It depends on the situation.
Just NEVER make a big deal of it, whether you pay or not. It must come as natural as anything. Paying should be a second thought.
I'm sure many DJs will disagree with me here.
I agree with you here, I also agree with Crissco, some girls are just out using guys for free meals. If they're like that then they're the one with a bad conscience, I don't give a shiet if they think that they have one over me.cupraikso said:
Ahh, listen to this guy!Crissco said:
Always carry cash, it makes splitting much easier (an obvious thing, but even I have forgotten about this, and I got used to the comfort of swiping the debit card).
Many times they're the ones carrying the card and you have cash on hand. In that case, she pays and you give her the cash.
Crissco
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NEVER happens to me. On Monday I met this chick online, first day meeting her had her over my house and banged her. Simple, easy as hell for me. And that wasnt the first time this happened either.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.