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Why do men on sosuave want to get married?

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Back in the day, Kings had several mistresses and produced many children with different women. Men were secure ones and women were insecure. Now, because of Disney and the powers that be, it’s the men who are insecure and the women who are secure. It’s the men who want wives and families and it’s the women who want education and freedom.

So I am wondering why some of the men on this site are so eager to get a LTR or a wife? Other than image and “fitting in”, what is the reason to legally commit to one woman for the rest of your life?

Remember, if you legally commit to ONE woman, you cannot leave without heavy emotional, financial, and legal costs. You cannot have sex with any other woman without heavy emotional, financial, and legal costs.

I’m curious of the responses.
 

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It’s the men who want wives and families and it’s the women who want education and freedom.

So I am wondering why some of the men on this site are so eager to get a LTR or a wife?
That is a great question. The wiring gets messed when young.

Laws.. we have many laws to prevent or discourage male dominance, and many to encourage female dominance. these laws are put in place by men; but what type of men. initially, it is the kindness of men but then later the niceness that gives away the power. no love in the home as either the caretakers are working or gone for other reasons. better to be poor of stuff than poor of spirit. the children grow up poor of spirit.

it is not really a question of why as much as sadness that it doesn't work like that. so ya learn how it works and then should be happy with that and move on. but the wiring is still connected. these men would do any task to negotiate desire if it was possible; any. so they are wired to want something they can not have. there is no more perfect torture.

the women can have education and freedom because the foolish kind men give it for free. these guys are complete idiots with backward ideas of goodness and kindness that are just completely looney. the law of the jungle is the truth.

alphas are happy with this as lots of women available to them 24/7 they do not have any problem with the current ways. beta men or even hybrids are the losers. the women are winning and the alpha men are winning. if you are an alpha man your rotation is full. if you are a women you can get away with having a rotation of alphas or just one on the side. if you're a beta you're wired to want an LTR.

alpha=no ltr
beta=ltr
 

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i think backseat is on to something because it is most definitely a ***** deficit problem for sure but something else is happening , testosterone is declining ?? its a ''medicine '' thing now... are''men ' and menly hormones now being ''sold out'' ??

im just sayin if you cause a testosterone problem , well... that has to be fixed , ppl gonna pay whatever they have to.... to get something that detrimental fixed.. my two cents its mental and physical
 

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I heard somewhere that marriage was originally more an advantage for men than women, as a way to be a little bit more sure the kids are his offspring. I think Disney and the likes has just as much twisted the views of marriage for women. If we look away from the cases where a woman obviously has a lot to gain financially, what else motive is there to marry a man? She doesn't need to do that to be a bit more sure the kids are hers, because if they come out of her pvssy she knows it's her offspring.
 

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Back in the day, Kings had several mistresses and produced many children with different women. Men were secure ones and women were insecure.
Kings were secure because they had the resources to deal with several mistresses. Most men did not.

Nevertheless I don't think most Sosuavers want to get married in the legal sense. A lot probably would like to eventually choose a woman to reproduce with and spend time with, without the entanglement with the state.

The problem is too many men see it as a solution, rather than a new process or undertaking. It's the same way they see things like landing a job, getting a promotion, buying a new car, getting access to clubs, and on and on. Like "I just need X and it will solve Y." Instead of focusing on Y and letting X happen naturally.
 

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That is a great question. The wiring gets messed when young.

Laws.. we have many laws to prevent or discourage male dominance, and many to encourage female dominance. these laws are put in place by men; but what type of men. initially, it is the kindness of men but then later the niceness that gives away the power. no love in the home as either the caretakers are working or gone for other reasons. better to be poor of stuff than poor of spirit. the children grow up poor of spirit.

it is not really a question of why as much as sadness that it doesn't work like that. so ya learn how it works and then should be happy with that and move on. but the wiring is still connected. these men would do any task to negotiate desire if it was possible; any. so they are wired to want something they can not have. there is no more perfect torture.

the women can have education and freedom because the foolish kind men give it for free. these guys are complete idiots with backward ideas of goodness and kindness that are just completely looney. the law of the jungle is the truth.

alphas are happy with this as lots of women available to them 24/7 they do not have any problem with the current ways. beta men or even hybrids are the losers. the women are winning and the alpha men are winning. if you are an alpha man your rotation is full. if you are a women you can get away with having a rotation of alphas or just one on the side. if you're a beta you're wired to want an LTR.


We can get up in this place in theory and objectification of women - which there is a place for. But in doing that we lose sight of a few things. I like an LTR because:

- companionship
- stability - women should only ever be a compliment but we all use energy acquiring women e.g. approaching, entertaining, seducing. It's not our focus but it takes some of our time. In an LTR, this time tends to be refocused on bettering ourselves
- procreation - it's fundamentally why we're here

It's not as simple as:

alpha=no ltr
beta=ltr
 

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And maybe because they need validation, to fit in.
during a meal with same age co-worker he told me that his fresh wife wants them to get out of her fathers (nice old silent man who's living by himself) house.. I asked him why would he take a mortgage and get in debts while he can put some money aside and keep living with their father for some time... for some reason he got upset by it and angrily told me "blah blah... btw you know this is also strange that in this age one still single". I was pretty blown away by his little bitz response
 

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That is a great question. The wiring gets messed when young.

Laws.. we have many laws to prevent or discourage male dominance, and many to encourage female dominance. these laws are put in place by men; but what type of men. initially, it is the kindness of men but then later the niceness that gives away the power. no love in the home as either the caretakers are working or gone for other reasons. better to be poor of stuff than poor of spirit. the children grow up poor of spirit.
I agree with this. The laws are also about money,

Females have great purchasing power, great for corporations, great for the powers that be, great for America. To hold a female down to be a “wife” or submit to a man takes away their ability to make and/or spend money. Very bad for the economy and the powers that be. How can a country be great and powerful if you subject one half of the population to traditional gender roles?

This is why I don’t understand why men want to LEGALLY commit to ONE women. If things go wrong, you are not only fighting her, you are fighting the system.

All men need is offspring. They do not need to commit to a woman unless it’s for image. And sadly, society has shamed men into making it for image.

- A man who does not have a wife is dangerous and should lower his standards.
- A woman who does not have a husband is respected because she hasn‘t found “the one.‘

Wake up men.
 

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I agree with this. The laws are also about money,

Females have great purchasing power, great for corporations, great for the powers that be, great for America. To hold a female down to be a “wife” or submit to a man takes away their ability to make and/or spend money. Very bad for the economy and the powers that be. How can a country be great and powerful if you subject one half of the population to traditional gender roles?

This is why I don’t understand why men want to LEGALLY commit to ONE women. If things go wrong, you are not only fighting her, you are fighting the system.

All men need is offspring. They do not need to commit to a woman unless it’s for image. And sadly, society has shamed men into making it for image.

- A man who does not have a wife is dangerous and should lower his standards.
- A woman who does not have a husband is respected because she hasn‘t found “the one.‘

Wake up men.

actually is the contrary, marriage is benefiting to a woman and state, since most woman are the spender in the family, they spend not only they money but also hubby money, most ads are taarget to woman then kids, men are the last one they care, becasue men don't tend to buy on impulse, how many woman you know who save they money and not spend everything on things? other reason is the divorce law favors woman, they still need money to spend, so it keep then going, they consider money would be useless on a men, plus why let a man retire around 40 with his money if he can spend till his dead working?

btw i'm on the line to never marry, it brings me no benefit
 

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Because of today's deregulation of the sexual market place, hordes of men are totally without sex nowadays so the prospect of atleast getting regular sex from one sure thing seems so much more tempting than jerking off to porn until you die.

That men on this forum want to get married, i don't know if i agree with that statement so my answer was more general thoughts.
I don't believe men succumb to societal pressure the same way women do in this regard.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

It’s a very individual choice. Having been there/done that myself and having emerged from the marriage as the breadwinner who came out financially intact as opposed to chopped in half I doubt I would marry again. I have assets I worked very hard for to protect and those assets have to support me, my ex husband and put my children through college. No small task.

But I’m done being pregnant and raising babies too now. Babies and young children are a full time responsibility 24/7/365 for many years. That’s a serious commitment and research shows over and over that the most well adjusted young people come from families with a solid marriage and its stability.

I believe the best marriages are traditional in the sense that the woman raises the babies and the man provides for his family. Call me 1950’s but that is the best family environment for children in my opinion.

It makes sense to desire that kind of stability. With your relationship solidified it allows more time for a man to focus on his purpose and life aims. He’s got his woman set. (Yes you still have to keep frame etc.) Now you can get out there and kick ass & take names in life with a secure partner by your side. There are advantages in that. You see it in longevity studies, quality of life studies and health outcomes.

Thing is...around here there isn’t much of a voice to tout these advantages. The great men here such as Colussus, Amante Silvestre, Casanova, and others found wives, married and are not contributing here any more. They are out doing life and enjoying quality outcomes including quality relationships. And that’s a good thing.

So it really depends what a man envisions for his life. That’s a highly individual choice and journey.
 

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during a meal with same age co-worker he told me that his fresh wife wants them to get out of her fathers (nice old silent man who's living by himself) house.. I asked him why would he take a mortgage and get in debts while he can put some money aside and keep living with their father for some time... for some reason he got upset by it and angrily told me "blah blah... btw you know this is also strange that in this age one still single". I was pretty blown away by his little bitz response
Your co worker feels emasculated living in his father-in-law’s home. There are expectations on him of duty since he is living there and his attitude & sensitivity to your comments suggest he either feels like a mooch or is being made to feel like one.

It’s an uncomfortable dynamic at best for him to live under the roof that belongs to his wife’s father. The father is providing for his wife rather than him. He feels that pretty acutely. That’s why the reaction.
 

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Lonliness is a real killer for so many men
I agree. My recent ex BF’s greatest fear? Being alone in his old age. It’s a very real fear and a visceral one.

Honestly I think women as a general rule manage loneliness and being alone better than men do. Perhaps that’s by design. After all women tend to outlive their man.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

It’s a very individual choice. Having been there/done that myself and having emerged from the marriage as the breadwinner who came out financially intact as opposed to chopped in half I doubt I would marry again. I have assets I worked very hard for to protect and those assets have to support me, my ex husband and put my children through college. No small task.

But I’m done being pregnant and raising babies too now. Babies and young children are a full time responsibility 24/7/365 for many years. That’s a serious commitment and research shows over and over that the most well adjusted young people come from families with a solid marriage and its stability.

I believe the best marriages are traditional in the sense that the woman raises the babies and the man provides for his family. Call me 1950’s but that is the best family environment for children in my opinion.

It makes sense to desire that kind of stability. With your relationship solidified it allows more time for a man to focus on his purpose and life aims. He’s got his woman set. (Yes you still have to keep frame etc.) Now you can get out there and kick ass & take names in life with a secure partner by your side. There are advantages in that. You see it in longevity studies, quality of life studies and health outcomes.

Thing is...around here there isn’t much of a voice to tout these advantages. The great men here such as Colussus, Amante Silvestre, Casanova, and others found wives, married and are not contributing here any more. They are out doing life and enjoying quality outcomes including quality relationships. And that’s a good thing.

So it really depends what a man envisions for his life. That’s a highly individual choice and journey.
Why did you leave out @Atom Smasher ?
 

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Why did you leave out @Atom Smasher ?
He’s still here. You are correct, I should have mentioned @Atom Smasher because he too is getting married (he might already be married now - not sure)...

I have the utmost respect for Atom. But he’s not vanished. I hope he sticks around. He gave me a good ribbing when I first arrived here almost 5 years ago...and he’s been a beacon of good sense, good advice & good humor to me personally over time, and for that I am very appreciative :)

So thank you @corrector for calling me out.

No offense intended toward Atom at all. He is a great contributor here and I did not intend the oversight.

Cheers
 
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