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Why do men on sosuave want to get married?

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Not sure if he does anymore. She logged in under his name and started posting some insane things about how SoSuave is ruining their marriage. Mods deleted them though after she admitted it was her posting and not him. A very entertaining moment in SoSuave.
Ahh and ALL of his content was removed from SoSuave. Weird, but apparently 'personal decision'.
 

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Not sure if he does anymore. She logged in under his name and started posting some insane things about how SoSuave is ruining their marriage. Mods deleted them though after she admitted it was her posting and not him. A very entertaining moment in SoSuave.
Told him not to marry. People put on masks until they get what they want. Good dude, but made a very bad decision. Very bad.
 

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Let's not talk abt Amante, he's not here to defend himself.

He's contributed much and the very least we all could do is allow him some dignity.
 

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Let's not talk abt Amante, he's not here to defend himself.

He's contributed much and the very least we all could do is allow him some dignity.
Didn't say anything wrong about the dude. Just made a statement that I did warn about this.
 

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Wasn't directed at you.

It's just a reminder for the rest, who might.

His wife might be stalking the forum, you know how women are and this will give unnecessary heartache to him.
I read it as it happened that morning and my gut instinct told me maybe it was the little one....maybe she overheard them arguing 'discussing' and he had his phone or computer open and she went on to try to 'save their marriage'.
When I was little, 8 or 9 yrs old, I might have done the same thing....lie and pretend to be the wife to embarass/shame in the hopes that Dad wouldn't log back on ever again.
If she really didn't understand that Amant e her father, was faithful and in love with his new wife/daughter's new stepmother.

She was a recovering sick little girl don't forget. When you're a kid, hearing parents argue can feel like the end of the world was near.

But hey, could be wrong.
 

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He does. I think he got married within this past year. Search the site. He made a thread about it. Nice to see you around here again by the way :)

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Thanks, I think we come and go depending on our life situation but this forum definitely has its uses throughout life. Great red-pilled sounding board away from friends/family.

Not sure if he does anymore. She logged in under his name and started posting some insane things about how SoSuave is ruining their marriage. Mods deleted them though after she admitted it was her posting and not him. A very entertaining moment in SoSuave.
I have no words... I typed a good post about the timelines meaning he has jumped straight to marriage and not qualified this woman plus the above psycho deceptive behavior and red flags.

Let that be a lesson to everyone, a bit disappointed actually.
 

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Marriage is important when one thinks abt one's future offspring.
This part is unwise for any HNW person. The chances of divorce are just too high. Imagine having to start over at 50 with zero or even less than zero? I do not see how a piece of paper makes two people better parents. One usually files for divorce once the kids turn 18 anyway. Now, if you mean religious, then I can possibly understand; just no State sanctioned license.
 

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I read it as it happened that morning and my gut instinct told me maybe it was the little one....maybe she overheard them arguing 'discussing' and he had his phone or computer open and she went on to try to 'save their marriage'.
When I was little, 8 or 9 yrs old, I might have done the same thing....lie and pretend to be the wife to embarass/shame in the hopes that Dad wouldn't log back on ever again.
If she really didn't understand that Amant e her father, was faithful and in love with his new wife/daughter's new stepmother.

She was a recovering sick little girl don't forget. When you're a kid, hearing parents argue can feel like the end of the world was near.

But hey, could be wrong.
I do not even recall this happening, so I didn't even see the thread that all are discussing.
 

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This part is unwise for any HNW person. The chances of divorce are just too high. Imagine having to start over at 50 with zero or even less than zero? I do not see how a piece of paper makes two people better parents. One usually files for divorce once the kids turn 18 anyway. Now, if you mean religious, then I can possibly understand; just no State sanctioned license.
Doesn't matter if they divorce after 10 years, 15 years, 20 years or even 40 years down the road.

Their kids WILL HAVE BOTH parents for that DURATION.

BTW, do all marriages end up in divorce?
 

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Doesn't matter if they divorce after 10 years, 15 years, 20 years or even 40 years down the road.

Their kids WILL HAVE BOTH parents for that DURATION.

BTW, do all marriages end up in divorce?
Two people can stick together w/o a cert. from the State. What's so great about this piece of paper? It doesn't keep people together dude. At least it doesn't in the US; aside the fear of being left with nothing.
 

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Two people can stick together w/o a cert. from the State. What's so great about this piece of paper? It doesn't keep people together dude. At least it doesn't in the US; aside the fear of being left with nothing.
The "paper" from either the state or the church makes it harder for couples to just walk away when things gets tough, especially when there r children involved as opposed to those that didnt get it.

That's what's so great abt it.

The problem that many men are facing in ur country is the lopsided laws that might potentially screw a man in a divorce - that's the root cause of ur fear.
 

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The "paper" from either the state or the church makes it harder for couples to just walk away when things gets tough, especially when there r children involved as opposed to those that didnt get it.

That's what's so great abt it.

The problem that many men are facing in ur country is the lopsided laws that might potentially screw a man in a divorce - that's the root cause of ur fear.
Doesn't make it hard for a spouse to file for divorce any more. There is no longer a stigma and people just want to hurt people anyway they can; children or not. I know a lot of dudes where the wife left them and they were put through hell. Two, sadly, took their own lives.

Sorry dude, it's not worth that State paper. I have no issues with a religious ceremony though. Statistically speaking, that State paper destroys peoples lives. While, yes, the dude will try to work through things, but when most ladies are done with the dude, she's outta there. She'd be outta there with a State license or not. No reason to give more power to one side. Without the State sanctioned marriage, both people are on an equal playing field. Yea, the gov't can enforce child support and visitation, but little else.
 

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He talked like a complete man who found a high quality woman. But I have not seen him post in quite a while. So let's not talk about him.
No one is talking about him, it's about his choices. He'll be fine. He's got a good job, a nice house near the New York / Canada border and a fat pension. Whether this works out or not, he'll be fine. Just let this be a lesson to all others. The person you meet prior to marriage isn't always the same person after you sign the dotted line. They are sure as hell not the same person if two people divorce.

Thus, it's best to skip the marriage license all together. If it doesn't work out, just walk away.
 

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Yo lets keep this 100

Amante did not practice what he preached, let him reap what he sowed.

Best believe when I settle down and marry (and I will, like God intended) it won't be to a psycho

He's too old and experienced to go out like that.

The lesson to learn here is, and I've always said this, take this forum with a pinch of salt.

We all live our own real lives, make our own decisions.

Amante fcked up major.

What happened to the other american female poster? The redhead?
 

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The "paper" from either the state or the church makes it harder for couples to just walk away when things gets tough, especially when there r children involved as opposed to those that didnt get it.

That's what's so great abt it.

The problem that many men are facing in ur country is the lopsided laws that might potentially screw a man in a divorce - that's the root cause of ur fear.
I'm going to have to agree on Spaz on this one.

I can see both sides and even though I don't advocate marriage as much as I did before, the potential rewards that are there for marriage greatly outweigh the risks if you play it smart as possible(looking out for warnings/red flags/listening to so suave advice). Unfortunatley a lot of guys discover the red pill or forums like this too late after they have been screwed and thus continue having a negative outlook.
Nothing is guaranteed in life but the cowards will stay cowards while failures or success of great men will make them greater, wiser, richer in various aspects of life. If you find a great gal and everything adds up, I don't think you should automatically discount marriage and be a coward to try it.
 

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Okay now we are delving into hypotheticals which is pointless. I was a medic in the military. I was a Navy corpsman who graduated from fleet marine training battalion and was able to be the "doc" of an entire platoon. I was trained in combat medicine and learned about anthrax and other biochemical weapons. I know for a fact that hydroxychloriquine is administered to SARS patients and even covid patients in the VA (veteran affairs) hospitals despite all the backlash against it because of people's hatred for Trump. After I got my bachelors, I got accepted to numerous medical schools but I decided to be a healthcare administrator instead.

I probably could have been a physician's assistant. In fact I know I could have. But I would never tell anyone they should not be a PA. Just because I didn't do it does not mean my reality is any more important.


My question is...what makes you feel like you are on such a high horse that you think you can tell people whether they should or should not marry? Do you have any kids? Do you have any experience in THAT domain?

One of the greatest hubris of men is that just because we are good in one area, we think we are good in other areas. Socrates was wise when he said he knew very little.

You are a PA (physician assistant), correct? A PA giving advice about marriage and relationships.

I was a combat medic who used to be the head seduction guru of the entire city of San Francisco...And yet I am still humble enough to say "Amante knows what he's doing."

I could have surely gotten a better career than you in healthcare if I wanted to (I probably get paid more now anyway) and I can surely run circles around you when it comes to relationships and women yet I am still humble enough to know my place when it comes to a grown man's choices when it comes to marriage.

We should never use Amante as any example for any narrative.

The point is not marriage. The point is character. Your character will attract your female equivalent.

And Amante has excellent character.

I can talk the way I do because I have taught hundreds of men about relationships. I have actual merit. So tell me, what is YOUR merit? Is it purely your ego from the medical field? And do you think this makes you unique? Lol.

Sometimes I want to know the source behind people's "air of authority". A lot of times, it's just empty entitlement born from ego.

If all you are is a PA, then color me unimpressed.
Actually, yes, I was married and I detailed it greatly on SoSuave. I was also the one who filed for divorce and then moved it to an annulment. I wanted kids, still do, but was stuck in a two year battle just to undo that piece of paper. In total, it cost around 25k for me to get this undone, and her about 16k. I offered to dissolve it w/o lawyers, she disagreed. She tried to get my pre-maritial home and for me to pay for other things, she lost on every account.

Please note, I am not, in any way, shape or form, singling out Amante. The lives the next county over from me; or did. I am merely pointing out the actions, what I advised not to, and what could happen. It's a different world now in New York State than prior to 2012. After 2012, non-fault was now legal in New York. Which means, a person can get divorced for any reason and it will be granted. Average attorney rates in the New York City area is between 375 - 650 PER HOUR. That's where they get you.

I am just trying to head warning that this piece of paper could be the most costly mistake anyone can make. There is ZERO modern research that a marriage license keeps two people together more than just cohabitation. None. In fact, many Hispanic families do this all the time. We should learn from them and how they do things.

As for my background, yes, I am a PA in the Connecticut Healthcare system. My B.S. was psychology, and I did do some of my residence in a psychological ward in Waterbury. Over the past decade, I've hosted many No More Mr. Nice Guy groups and meetups in NYC.
 

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I'm going to have to agree on Spaz on this one.

I can see both sides and even though I don't advocate marriage as much as I did before, the potential rewards that are there for marriage greatly outweigh the risks if you play it smart as possible(looking out for warnings/red flags/listening to so suave advice). Unfortunatley a lot of guys discover the red pill or forums like this too late after they have been screwed and thus continue having a negative outlook.
Nothing is guaranteed in life but the cowards will stay cowards while failures or success of great men will make them greater, wiser, richer in various aspects of life. If you find a great gal and everything adds up, I don't think you should automatically discount marriage and be a coward to try it.
Tell this to the many dudes that off themselves each and every year after the divorce is settled. Unless you go through the system, you really do not know what the rabbit hole looks like.

I urge everyone to watch these two videos:


 
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