"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why do chicks think it's ok to be fat?

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vorbis said:
...To be crude, that guy can use the fat chick to develop some experience and then use that to be more successful on more attractive chicks. I've seen this happen several times. A guy I know, typically scores with an ugly bird on a night out and takes her home. He's now with a very attractive gf partly (he says) from the regular action he was getting. It gave him confidence.
Are these the the type of men who sarge schoolgirls for the same reason?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Are these the the type of men who sarge schoolgirls for the same reason?

YOU WILL NOT RUIN MY FANTASY OF ONE DAY RUNNING/OWNING AN ALL GIRL HIGHSCHOOL COMPRISED OF CATHOLIC SCHOOL GIRLS!!!!! DAMN YOU FRANCISCO!!!!!!
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Are these the the type of men who sarge schoolgirls for the same reason?
WTF?? you're normally an intelligent poster but that was just retarded.
 

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Fortunate_Juan said:
YOU WILL NOT RUIN MY FANTASY OF ONE DAY RUNNING/OWNING AN ALL GIRL HIGHSCHOOL COMPRISED OF CATHOLIC SCHOOL GIRLS!!!!! DAMN YOU FRANCISCO!!!!!!
Hehehehehehe.... Another dream shattered by my mighty fist.... Bwaaahahahahahaha!!!!
 

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WTF?? you're normally an intelligent poster but that was just retarded.
Out of curiosity, what exactly do you think I meant?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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It has been scientifically surveyed and professionally diagnosed by the American Medical Association and experts in "Ho-ology" that the cause for such a reservoir of fat by the modern woman is that, on the average, 20% of their weight is sperm!! So a 150 pound modern day woman (hor) would be comprised of 30 pounds of sperm!!

Seems to be a logical explanation to me!
 

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insanity said:
i have been both skinny and fat and back to slim. some people think it's easy but food is almost as hard giving up as a nerd giving up world of warcraft. it's tough as hell to lose weight especially if your over the age of 25. i went to the gym for almost a year and i only lost 1 pound a month. thats hardly worth the 200$ membership and i really worked my butt off and seeing little results for such along time pissed me off. soon i just started eating barely anything and man i was moody.

i got back into shape but my skin color was greenish. then i just started eating healthy. i must admit healthy food sucks but it keeps me in shape and yes the ladies turn their heads.

some people are lucky to be blessed with a high speed metabolism and don't have to work hard to keep the pounds off. but if they ever took a stroll down fat lane they would learn a thing about how hard it is to take the fat off.

this is a great post!!!!!!!!
 

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i'm OK with fat chicks...I may not want to date them, but if someone has accepted their weight then that's fine with me. I really don't see what the point of this post was originally. The average american is overweight and it seems pretty evenly distributed btw guys and girls. I think fat girls stick out more than guys but my general impression is that we have a double standard and guys can get away with a lot more.

On a sidenote, I would agree that not only is losing weight is hard, but maintaining your weight as equally tough as you age.
 

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Though on paper, the obesity rates for men and women are similar, I think there are a lot more fat women then men as muscular men are classed as obese on the BMI chart.

Therefore, if we consider fatness unattractive, the Average American women is becoming uglier relative to the average American man.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This thread is ridiculous; there about 5 intelligent posts on this board, the rest are people complaining. Do you think fat/big girls care what you think??? No, they seem to have more confidence than skinny girls...and more confidence than all you AFCs combined.

I have never read so many clown posts. I'm not excusing anyone that eats junk all day an complains that they are fat. The truth is, not everyone's body shape is the same. I can work out for a month and put on a few pounds of muscle; my friend works out an entire year and gains nothing.

A lot of guys in this post sound bitter. Instead of worrying about yourself, you complain about bigger women. The funny thing is, there have been very few posts that explain the definition of fat. Is it a 5'5" girl that weights 140lbs or is it a 5'10" girl that weights 190lbs.? A 5'6" girl that weights 125lbs and you call her fat because you want her at 101lbs? A 5'4" girl that weights 300lbs?

Guys are just as big/overweight, yet seems like more women are accepting.
 

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the main reason for it is because: fat Women have no incentive to change!

No matter what, a fat girl can always find a guy who will go for her.

Some guys will **** ANYTHING.

and even if she cant find a guy whos desperate enough, she can invoke pity from other people so they feel sorry for her

So shes still getting her needs met, attention and sexual, without having to lose the weight or even have a good personality.

why bother changing?
 

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THE_ADDMAN said:
the main reason for it is because: fat Women have no incentive to change!

No matter what, a fat girl can always find a guy who will go for her.

Some guys will **** ANYTHING.

and even if she cant find a guy whos desperate enough, she can invoke pity from other people so they feel sorry for her

So shes still getting her needs met, attention and sexual, without having to lose the weight or even have a good personality.

why bother changing?
why does the guy have to be desperate? what if he likes fat/bigger women? what about the guys that like women with no confidence...is that desperation too?

What about a fat girl that is in the process of losing weight? If you just saw her walking around town at 270lbs, you never know if she lost 30 lbs already and working on losing 100 more. Women do care that they are fat but when you (man or woman) are fat,obese, or morbidly obese, it is kind of difficult to hide it.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
It has been scientifically surveyed and professionally diagnosed by the American Medical Association and experts in "Ho-ology" that the cause for such a reservoir of fat by the modern woman is that, on the average, 20% of their weight is sperm!! So a 150 pound modern day woman (hor) would be comprised of 30 pounds of sperm!!

Seems to be a logical explanation to me!
yeah that guy PRL gets around :)
 

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Vince said:
why does the guy have to be desperate? what if he likes fat/bigger women? what about the guys that like women with no confidence...is that desperation too?

What about a fat girl that is in the process of losing weight? If you just saw her walking around town at 270lbs, you never know if she lost 30 lbs already and working on losing 100 more. Women do care that they are fat but when you (man or woman) are fat,obese, or morbidly obese, it is kind of difficult to hide it.

we can sit around all day and argue "what ifs"

there are always exceptions. ALWAYS.

I am responding to the name of the thread

"Why do chicks think it's ok to be fat?"

And my answer is "because they still get their needs met, so why make an effort to improve?"

same with becoming a DJ; If you are already satisfied and your needs are getting met, why bother improving yourself and becoming a DJ?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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THE_ADDMAN said:
we can sit around all day and argue "what ifs"

there are always exceptions. ALWAYS.

I am responding to the name of the thread

"Why do chicks think it's ok to be fat?"

And my answer is "because they still get their needs met, so why make an effort to improve?"

same with becoming a DJ; If you are already satisfied and your needs are getting met, why bother improving yourself and becoming a DJ?
Well, the question becomes, "what do you think is fat?" If a guy thinks a 140lb and she is 5'4" woman is fat, does that mean she doesn't want to improve? Some may not consider her to be fat, and many will say she is a large whale. Yes, there are some people that do not care if they are morbidly obese, they do not care what they eat, etc. But why do you care? Especially, if you are not interested in them? How do you know if they fat woman in particular thinks it ok to be fat. I don't think any woman really thinks its ok to be fat, some just accept who they are--big women. It can be extremely difficult to lose weight--people go through pills and surgery to lose weight.

I think the concept of the thread is good, people shouldn't let themselves go physically, mentally ,etc. There are a lot of people that need to improve, not just people that are large.

If the woman gets her needs met, why do you care???
 

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Vince said:
Well, the question becomes, "what do you think is fat?" If a guy thinks a 140lb and she is 5'4" woman is fat, does that mean she doesn't want to improve? Some may not consider her to be fat, and many will say she is a large whale. Yes, there are some people that do not care if they are morbidly obese, they do not care what they eat, etc. But why do you care? Especially, if you are not interested in them? How do you know if they fat woman in particular thinks it ok to be fat. I don't think any woman really thinks its ok to be fat, some just accept who they are--big women. It can be extremely difficult to lose weight--people go through pills and surgery to lose weight.

I think the concept of the thread is good, people shouldn't let themselves go physically, mentally ,etc. There are a lot of people that need to improve, not just people that are large.

If the woman gets her needs met, why do you care???
It shouldn't be a social "norm" to be overweight. It creates a host of different medical problems, is taxing on our medical system and is just plain gross. I don't think it's so much the fact that she's getting her needs met that bothers him, it's the fact that it is becoming more acceptable to be overweight. Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't make it right.
 

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I thought this was over. Ok so since it shouldn't be the norm to be huge, let me ask you guys another question. Would you ask your girl to lose weight, or would you be to scared? I think I would find it difficult.
 

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Chosen1 said:
I thought this was over. Ok so since it shouldn't be the norm to be huge, let me ask you guys another question. Would you ask your girl to lose weight, or would you be to scared? I think I would find it difficult.

I have asked her (her being a former girlfriend).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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