MatureDJ
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Sad but true, worse yet is that hb3-4 is not rational as you say, she doesnt realize her condition thus deciding her habits after a cost/gain ration reasoning.Burroughs said:Because for an average fattie the cost to getting thin isn't worth the reward...
your average fattie chick with a cute face lets say an hb3...can still pull desperate hb 6-7 dudes.....you see these couples in every mall...a fattie chick waddling with a in shape but plain faced dude.....the fattie would have to go from an hb3 to a 7...in order to even THINK about pulling hb 10 dudes....and then only as pump and dumps.....so the average fattie hb3 says fvck it dips another ding dong in chocolate fudge and chomps away...she's already got her orbiters of hb6 dudes who she blows every saturday night when the dudes strike out in the club....she's happy with that...plus twinkies taste real good.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
This is an excellent analysis.Burroughs said:Because for an average fattie the cost to getting thin isn't worth the reward...
your average fattie chick with a cute face lets say an hb3...can still pull desperate hb 6-7 dudes.....you see these couples in every mall...a fattie chick waddling with a in shape but plain faced dude.....the fattie would have to go from an hb3 to a 7...in order to even THINK about pulling hb 10 dudes....and then only as pump and dumps.....so the average fattie hb3 says fvck it dips another ding dong in chocolate fudge and chomps away...she's already got her orbiters of hb6 dudes who she blows every saturday night when the dudes strike out in the club....she's happy with that...plus twinkies taste real good.
Couldn't agree more!Lexington said:Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one. The reason why more women don't do what that woman did is because it's hard to get in shape. It requires a lot of willpower and dedication to accomplish what that woman did.
It's not easy for me to push myself to go to the gym 5 days a week. It's very hard to eat right. It's not easy to bang out those extra two reps at the gym when you're about to break mentally. And I'm a person who was always in decent shape. It's orders of magnitude harder for an obese person.
We could turn it around on a lot of us here. How come we don't all have 6 packs? How come we're not all shredded? It's not impossible. You just have to hit the gym hard and eat right.
Lexington said:Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one. The reason why more women don't do what that woman did is because it's hard to get in shape. It requires a lot of willpower and dedication to accomplish what that woman did.
It's not easy for me to push myself to go to the gym 5 days a week. It's very hard to eat right. It's not easy to bang out those extra two reps at the gym when you're about to break mentally. And I'm a person who was always in decent shape. It's orders of magnitude harder for an obese person.
We could turn it around on a lot of us here. How come we don't all have 6 packs? How come we're not all shredded? It's not impossible. You just have to hit the gym hard and eat right.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
HB in HB3 or HB4 means Ham Beast, not Hot Babe.Zarky said:This is an excellent analysis.
However, keep in mind that, by definition, women under 7 can't be "HBs" and "HB" only applies to women because it stands for hot babe.
I think it's a gamble. There have been women who were in shape and got fat after marriage, too.Rollo Tomassi said:Here's an interesting hypothetical for you: Say you hooked up with this woman and she looked marginally hot (an HB7.5 on the Tomassi scale), but at some point she shows you her "fat pictures" to show you how she changed herself; are you more worried that she'll go back to being fat and comfortable once you're in an LTR or married than you would be if you got with a woman who'd always been in shape?
It comes down to a womans penchant for being a product of her environment. A regular beta herb? What does she care. A sniff of a 3 parts alpha 1 part beta, a 10 percenter she's always dreamed about who makes her truly happy in the traditional man/woman sense? You bet she will stay fit, a 10 percenter doesn't tolerate fat assery, she knows this as much as he does.Rollo Tomassi said:Here's an interesting hypothetical for you: Say you hooked up with this woman and she looked marginally hot (an HB7.5 on the Tomassi scale), but at some point she shows you her "fat pictures" to show you how she changed herself; are you more worried that she'll go back to being fat and comfortable once you're in an LTR or married than you would be if you got with a woman who'd always been in shape?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Zarky said:One of the chicks I'm dating is late 30s and skinny as a rail and always has been. Eats like a horse, too. If I were going to find a long-term prospect I'd search for something like that... someone who's genetically predisposed to being thin. Unfortunately this is rather rare.
She also has a perfect .7 waist-to-hip ratio. Another rarity.
Change the gender and this sounds like me. I always ate like a horse, as you say, and would never gain fat or weight. Think Ed Norton from the Honeymooners. It wasn't until my late 30s that my metabolism slowed down enough that I had to start watching what I ate. I was already exercising a lot, so that wasn't the problem. It was quite an eye opener. We are not immortal, gentlemen.Zarky said:One of the chicks I'm dating is late 30s and skinny as a rail and always has been. Eats like a horse, too. If I were going to find a long-term prospect I'd search for something like that... someone who's genetically predisposed to being thin.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.