i've observed an absence of females on this forum. granted this is a male oriented forum but since it deals mainly with male female interactions i believe a female's opinion is occasionally needed to put things in proper perspective. I think there were a few around back in the days but you guys probably scared them off with your misogynist talk and PUA lingo..lol jk
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
why arent any girls on sosuave?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Eternal_water
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Can't trust their opinions anyway, how often do you hear them say they want nice sensitive guys?
I've heard it pretty often and in alot of cases it seems they don't actually know what they wan't themselves.
I don't believe a girl would genuinely give real advice on how to pick them up, they prefer to keep the power.
besides we don't really want them picking up on our tactics do we
I've heard it pretty often and in alot of cases it seems they don't actually know what they wan't themselves.
I don't believe a girl would genuinely give real advice on how to pick them up, they prefer to keep the power.
besides we don't really want them picking up on our tactics do we
Gro0ver
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I've seen advertisments that are aimed at females so i wouldn't be so sure. There's probably ones that lurk just for kicks or to try and understand and rationalise dj behaviour.Eternal_water said:Can't trust their opinions anyway, how often do you hear them say they want nice sensitive guys?
I've heard it pretty often and in alot of cases it seems they don't actually know what they wan't themselves.
I don't believe a girl would genuinely give real advice on how to pick them up, they prefer to keep the power.
besides we don't really want them picking up on our tactics do we
Iceberg
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ezio said:i've observed an absence of females on this forum. granted this is a male oriented forum but since it deals mainly with male female interactions i believe a female's opinion is occasionally needed to put things in proper perspective. I think there were a few around back in the days but you guys probably scared them off with your misogynist talk and PUA lingo..lol jk
There are one or two steady female posters who have been here for a few years. The average girl, however, is useless in giving advice on how to pursue women.
Imagine what a gazelle would say if a lion asked him for advice on hunting.
Interesting points but i'm referring to hard hitting girls who call it as it is. not the lovey dovey i like nice guys but still date jerks kind of girls. For instance a guy with oneitis who is being strung along by a chick would rather accept the truth from a girl than from a guy.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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From my perspective, women are largely more hypocritical than men. A woman will say "any man who doesn't date a larger woman is a swallow moron", yet they'll drool over someone with a six pack and abs and will flat out refuse to date someone with a bit or a lot of man-tub on their body.
At least with men, you get a honest opinion, a frank assessment.
At least with men, you get a honest opinion, a frank assessment.
Iceberg
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ezio said:Interesting points but i'm referring to hard hitting girls who call it as it is. not the lovey dovey i like nice guys but still date jerks kind of girls. For instance a guy with oneitis who is being strung along by a chick would rather accept the truth from a girl than from a guy.
Hard-hitting, honest girls are hard enough to find in real life, let alone on a site dedicated to male issues. I think you'd agree.
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It's complicated. I can think of many reasons.
1. Some females have posted and been insulted by some SS members. Then they stopped posting. I tell female posters to have a thick skin lol. Of course, plenty of SS members are respectful and don't mind a friendly debate.
2. I don't think that many females are interested in this site. Or they quickly lose interest because it might SEEM like a bunch of misogynists.
3. They don't want to get swamped with PMs from guys hitting on them or asking 1000 questions lol.
4. With a few exceptions, I don't think females are interested in helping guys with this area of life. It's not necessarily some "We can't give our girly secrets out to men, the enemy" kind of conspiracy. It's more that most females have a binary or black and white view of men. You are either the attractive smooth "natural" or you are a loser, creeper. There is NO in between, and trying to "improve your game" or "make yourself more attractive" is looked at with scorn by most women. First, you were only an ugly loser. Now, in their eyes, you are a desperate TRYHARD loser who won't accept his lot in life, which is considered worse. F283000 said it best, "Women want James Bond. They just don't want you to become James Bond."
Notwithstanding, can some women give good honest advice? Yes, but it's not easy to find, and a guy needs some experience to tell the good advice from
the bad.
1. Some females have posted and been insulted by some SS members. Then they stopped posting. I tell female posters to have a thick skin lol. Of course, plenty of SS members are respectful and don't mind a friendly debate.
2. I don't think that many females are interested in this site. Or they quickly lose interest because it might SEEM like a bunch of misogynists.
3. They don't want to get swamped with PMs from guys hitting on them or asking 1000 questions lol.
4. With a few exceptions, I don't think females are interested in helping guys with this area of life. It's not necessarily some "We can't give our girly secrets out to men, the enemy" kind of conspiracy. It's more that most females have a binary or black and white view of men. You are either the attractive smooth "natural" or you are a loser, creeper. There is NO in between, and trying to "improve your game" or "make yourself more attractive" is looked at with scorn by most women. First, you were only an ugly loser. Now, in their eyes, you are a desperate TRYHARD loser who won't accept his lot in life, which is considered worse. F283000 said it best, "Women want James Bond. They just don't want you to become James Bond."
Notwithstanding, can some women give good honest advice? Yes, but it's not easy to find, and a guy needs some experience to tell the good advice from
the bad.
This is absolute gold.Mike32ct said:F283000 said it best, "Women want James Bond. They just don't want you to become James Bond
Agreed, when you're a natural ladies man, you're a charmer. When you try to become a ladies man, you're a creep.
I would only trust a woman's advice if I've seen her live what she preaches. If she says all girls want xyz, but she's banging a dude that offers abc, we have a problem.
Eternal_water
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No matter what anyone says I will only trust advice that is coming from guys, any advice from girls is getting discarded.
I'm more likely to do the exact opposite of what they say like be a nice guy, respect a girl - haha yeah, no thanks
I completely agree about them wanting 007 license to thrill but don't want you to be bond and certainly don't want to be for your eyes only
I'm more likely to do the exact opposite of what they say like be a nice guy, respect a girl - haha yeah, no thanks
I completely agree about them wanting 007 license to thrill but don't want you to be bond and certainly don't want to be for your eyes only
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
TillTheEndOfTime
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Simply put, getting advice from a girl about the dating game is as reliable as getting a field sobriety test from a drunk.
If I want information on premenstrual cycles, I'll talk to a woman. If I want solid dating advice, I'll talk to a man. :yes:
If I want information on premenstrual cycles, I'll talk to a woman. If I want solid dating advice, I'll talk to a man. :yes:
i do my best to run them off when they appear
the vast majority of women have no experience dating women and are thus not qualified to give advice
in addition, women tend to communicate indirectly and will likely answer questions in a way that makes them look good and makes you feel good, regardless of the truth or what they actually believe
the vast majority of women have no experience dating women and are thus not qualified to give advice
in addition, women tend to communicate indirectly and will likely answer questions in a way that makes them look good and makes you feel good, regardless of the truth or what they actually believe
timmylivingalie
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ExactlyIceberg said:There are one or two steady female posters who have been here for a few years. The average girl, however, is useless in giving advice on how to pursue women.
Imagine what a gazelle would say if a lion asked him for advice on hunting.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.