Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Ok, I have a couple of dates that I'm trying to set up from the internet. One is from someone I've meet before, that I'll be meeting on Saturday. The second will likely be next week sometime. I have an Indian fetish, and it's an Indian girl from the Carribean. So, I'm going to see if I can seduce either of them.tmpgstx said:You poor sap Luke .. man, what's been the problem?
So lemme get this straight... you WORK. So that means you got MONEY.Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
So, if I'm just myself, but just keep the date for about 30 minutes, as a safe-guard for saying something stupid like 'duh, how many guys have you slept with, are you like a slvt or something?'tmpgstx said:I don't put alot of stock into canned line or seduction. I think it's mostly body language and charm. It took my analytical logical mind a long time to learn this.
Once you get it down, they come to you and make it easy for you to seduce them. They'll even tell you when they are single (after having a bf).
What are you talking about 18-23 year range. I checked this forum out and it's a general forum. Otherwise there is a high school forum and a mature forum.lnghrngeek said:Just out of curiousity Luke, what were you doing in the 18-23 age range?? I ask because I'm 20 and don't want to end up still a virgin in 10 years.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Oh I see. I went to an all boys high school, and was shy talking to girls in first year University. It would take months before I had the nerve to ask someone out just to get rejected.lnghrngeek said:No, I mean what were you doing in YOUR 18-23 age range that you think prevented you from losing your virginity. Perhaps, I myself (age 20) can see what I'm doing wrong.
been there done that (more then 150 times in last 3 years) but i still consider my self a virgin, since i never done it without paying for it.gunit630 said:or get with a hooker
Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???dakota said:Sorry luke,
the force is even stronger with me. At 38 I am still a virgin. The ironic thing is that, being a schoolteacher I have two reputations around town. Some believe that I am still a virgin and other believe I have slept with one or more of a whole series of reccent HS graduates who are all in the 8-10 range.
Rather easy.... when I first got here my chemistry class asked me.. and well being honest I answered. ( ok, not the best idea!)... but then the same year the head basketball chearleader ( slutty 8+ ish) started all sorts of rumours about me ( she lived across the street)... + another gal started comming over and dropping off food... THEN about a year after another graduate ( 9+) started hanging out with me... meanwhile... ...Fash said:I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???
Please excuse me while I go and throw up...Zerotwoonenine said:17 here, cant lose it untill married because i am christian... but i could easilly lose it, go to club, get drunk girls...
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.