You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Ok, I have a couple of dates that I'm trying to set up from the internet. One is from someone I've meet before, that I'll be meeting on Saturday. The second will likely be next week sometime. I have an Indian fetish, and it's an Indian girl from the Carribean. So, I'm going to see if I can seduce either of them.tmpgstx said:You poor sap Luke .. man, what's been the problem?
So lemme get this straight... you WORK. So that means you got MONEY.Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
So, if I'm just myself, but just keep the date for about 30 minutes, as a safe-guard for saying something stupid like 'duh, how many guys have you slept with, are you like a slvt or something?'tmpgstx said:I don't put alot of stock into canned line or seduction. I think it's mostly body language and charm. It took my analytical logical mind a long time to learn this.
Once you get it down, they come to you and make it easy for you to seduce them. They'll even tell you when they are single (after having a bf).
What are you talking about 18-23 year range. I checked this forum out and it's a general forum. Otherwise there is a high school forum and a mature forum.lnghrngeek said:Just out of curiousity Luke, what were you doing in the 18-23 age range?? I ask because I'm 20 and don't want to end up still a virgin in 10 years.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Oh I see. I went to an all boys high school, and was shy talking to girls in first year University. It would take months before I had the nerve to ask someone out just to get rejected.lnghrngeek said:No, I mean what were you doing in YOUR 18-23 age range that you think prevented you from losing your virginity. Perhaps, I myself (age 20) can see what I'm doing wrong.
been there done that (more then 150 times in last 3 years) but i still consider my self a virgin, since i never done it without paying for it.gunit630 said:or get with a hooker
Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???dakota said:Sorry luke,
the force is even stronger with me. At 38 I am still a virgin. The ironic thing is that, being a schoolteacher I have two reputations around town. Some believe that I am still a virgin and other believe I have slept with one or more of a whole series of reccent HS graduates who are all in the 8-10 range.
Rather easy.... when I first got here my chemistry class asked me.. and well being honest I answered. ( ok, not the best idea!)... but then the same year the head basketball chearleader ( slutty 8+ ish) started all sorts of rumours about me ( she lived across the street)... + another gal started comming over and dropping off food... THEN about a year after another graduate ( 9+) started hanging out with me... meanwhile... ...Fash said:I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???
Please excuse me while I go and throw up...Zerotwoonenine said:17 here, cant lose it untill married because i am christian... but i could easilly lose it, go to club, get drunk girls...
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.