Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Ok, I have a couple of dates that I'm trying to set up from the internet. One is from someone I've meet before, that I'll be meeting on Saturday. The second will likely be next week sometime. I have an Indian fetish, and it's an Indian girl from the Carribean. So, I'm going to see if I can seduce either of them.tmpgstx said:You poor sap Luke .. man, what's been the problem?
So lemme get this straight... you WORK. So that means you got MONEY.Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
So, if I'm just myself, but just keep the date for about 30 minutes, as a safe-guard for saying something stupid like 'duh, how many guys have you slept with, are you like a slvt or something?'tmpgstx said:I don't put alot of stock into canned line or seduction. I think it's mostly body language and charm. It took my analytical logical mind a long time to learn this.
Once you get it down, they come to you and make it easy for you to seduce them. They'll even tell you when they are single (after having a bf).
What are you talking about 18-23 year range. I checked this forum out and it's a general forum. Otherwise there is a high school forum and a mature forum.lnghrngeek said:Just out of curiousity Luke, what were you doing in the 18-23 age range?? I ask because I'm 20 and don't want to end up still a virgin in 10 years.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Oh I see. I went to an all boys high school, and was shy talking to girls in first year University. It would take months before I had the nerve to ask someone out just to get rejected.lnghrngeek said:No, I mean what were you doing in YOUR 18-23 age range that you think prevented you from losing your virginity. Perhaps, I myself (age 20) can see what I'm doing wrong.
been there done that (more then 150 times in last 3 years) but i still consider my self a virgin, since i never done it without paying for it.gunit630 said:or get with a hooker
Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???dakota said:Sorry luke,
the force is even stronger with me. At 38 I am still a virgin. The ironic thing is that, being a schoolteacher I have two reputations around town. Some believe that I am still a virgin and other believe I have slept with one or more of a whole series of reccent HS graduates who are all in the 8-10 range.
Rather easy.... when I first got here my chemistry class asked me.. and well being honest I answered. ( ok, not the best idea!)... but then the same year the head basketball chearleader ( slutty 8+ ish) started all sorts of rumours about me ( she lived across the street)... + another gal started comming over and dropping off food... THEN about a year after another graduate ( 9+) started hanging out with me... meanwhile... ...Fash said:I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???
Please excuse me while I go and throw up...Zerotwoonenine said:17 here, cant lose it untill married because i am christian... but i could easilly lose it, go to club, get drunk girls...
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.