You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Ok, I have a couple of dates that I'm trying to set up from the internet. One is from someone I've meet before, that I'll be meeting on Saturday. The second will likely be next week sometime. I have an Indian fetish, and it's an Indian girl from the Carribean. So, I'm going to see if I can seduce either of them.tmpgstx said:You poor sap Luke .. man, what's been the problem?
So lemme get this straight... you WORK. So that means you got MONEY.Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
So, if I'm just myself, but just keep the date for about 30 minutes, as a safe-guard for saying something stupid like 'duh, how many guys have you slept with, are you like a slvt or something?'tmpgstx said:I don't put alot of stock into canned line or seduction. I think it's mostly body language and charm. It took my analytical logical mind a long time to learn this.
Once you get it down, they come to you and make it easy for you to seduce them. They'll even tell you when they are single (after having a bf).
What are you talking about 18-23 year range. I checked this forum out and it's a general forum. Otherwise there is a high school forum and a mature forum.lnghrngeek said:Just out of curiousity Luke, what were you doing in the 18-23 age range?? I ask because I'm 20 and don't want to end up still a virgin in 10 years.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Oh I see. I went to an all boys high school, and was shy talking to girls in first year University. It would take months before I had the nerve to ask someone out just to get rejected.lnghrngeek said:No, I mean what were you doing in YOUR 18-23 age range that you think prevented you from losing your virginity. Perhaps, I myself (age 20) can see what I'm doing wrong.
been there done that (more then 150 times in last 3 years) but i still consider my self a virgin, since i never done it without paying for it.gunit630 said:or get with a hooker
Luke Skywalker said:I'm 30 y/o, and already posted in the mature section (thread was locked). I'm likely the oldest virgin on here, and I'm for the record still a virgin, in fact, I've never kissed a girl. I've always failed with women as you can see and I'm very frustrated. I'm even memorising lines for priming dates reading this book "HOw to Succed with Women'.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???dakota said:Sorry luke,
the force is even stronger with me. At 38 I am still a virgin. The ironic thing is that, being a schoolteacher I have two reputations around town. Some believe that I am still a virgin and other believe I have slept with one or more of a whole series of reccent HS graduates who are all in the 8-10 range.
Rather easy.... when I first got here my chemistry class asked me.. and well being honest I answered. ( ok, not the best idea!)... but then the same year the head basketball chearleader ( slutty 8+ ish) started all sorts of rumours about me ( she lived across the street)... + another gal started comming over and dropping off food... THEN about a year after another graduate ( 9+) started hanging out with me... meanwhile... ...Fash said:I'm curious about HOW you get a reputation for being a virgin around town, and HOW people start assuming that you sleep with all your HS graduates???
Please excuse me while I go and throw up...Zerotwoonenine said:17 here, cant lose it untill married because i am christian... but i could easilly lose it, go to club, get drunk girls...
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.