Maximus Rex
Banned
If you bounce with a group? Who pays? Are you suppose to pay for the whole group or only the target?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
ready123 said:unless you're broke, it doesn't ****in matter
only way it'll ruin your game is if you obsess about it
Don't you mean "cheap" girls hate cheap guys? And what about the rest of the group, would you pay for them too? Where does it stop? Is your ability to pay a woman's way the only thing that you have to offer?Jayer said:Couldnt have said it better myself. Girls hate cheap guys by the way.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You still have the mindset that you are buying something when you pay. This is more of a turn off then being cheap in the first place.Francisco d'Anconia said:I want to see the ratio between the amount of times these guys pay for initial meeting and the amount of times that a relationship is sustained. Basically I want to see whether or not a guy can get more play (not to be confused with mere attention) if he buys his way to it.
Only to people like you who live in romantisized, idealistic, Harlequin-like dream worlds. The type of people who believe that "...If he loves me, he'd know what he had done wrong..." The ones who believe that a gentleman is defined by how many hoops he'll jump through or how many times he can be wrapped around a finger. Basically, people who don't have enough trust that a guy's attention alone proves his interest in her, his wallet does and if he doesn't comply, he's somehow less than a man even though he could offer more than what you could ever deserve.iqqi said:You still have the mindset that you are buying something when you pay. This is more of a turn off then being cheap in the first place.
When you pay, you are being a gentleman, and fulfilling a man's role. B!tch all you want about what a man's role is, cuz it is what it is.
Women entice, men pursue. It is the natural order.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
yeppers...iqqi said:
Francisco d'Anconia said:Only to people like you who live in romantisized, idealistic, Harlequin-like dream worlds. The type of people who believe that "...If he loves me, he'd know what he had done wrong..." The ones who believe that a gentleman is defined by how many hoops he'll jump through or how many times he can be wrapped around a finger. Basically, people who don't have enough trust that a guy's attention alone proves his interest in her, his wallet does and if he doesn't comply, he's somehow less than a man even though he could offer more than what you could ever deserve.