Maximus Rex
Banned
If you bounce with a group? Who pays? Are you suppose to pay for the whole group or only the target?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ready123 said:unless you're broke, it doesn't ****in matter
only way it'll ruin your game is if you obsess about it
Don't you mean "cheap" girls hate cheap guys? And what about the rest of the group, would you pay for them too? Where does it stop? Is your ability to pay a woman's way the only thing that you have to offer?Jayer said:Couldnt have said it better myself. Girls hate cheap guys by the way.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You still have the mindset that you are buying something when you pay. This is more of a turn off then being cheap in the first place.Francisco d'Anconia said:I want to see the ratio between the amount of times these guys pay for initial meeting and the amount of times that a relationship is sustained. Basically I want to see whether or not a guy can get more play (not to be confused with mere attention) if he buys his way to it.
Only to people like you who live in romantisized, idealistic, Harlequin-like dream worlds. The type of people who believe that "...If he loves me, he'd know what he had done wrong..." The ones who believe that a gentleman is defined by how many hoops he'll jump through or how many times he can be wrapped around a finger. Basically, people who don't have enough trust that a guy's attention alone proves his interest in her, his wallet does and if he doesn't comply, he's somehow less than a man even though he could offer more than what you could ever deserve.iqqi said:You still have the mindset that you are buying something when you pay. This is more of a turn off then being cheap in the first place.
When you pay, you are being a gentleman, and fulfilling a man's role. B!tch all you want about what a man's role is, cuz it is what it is.
Women entice, men pursue. It is the natural order.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
yeppers...iqqi said:
Francisco d'Anconia said:Only to people like you who live in romantisized, idealistic, Harlequin-like dream worlds. The type of people who believe that "...If he loves me, he'd know what he had done wrong..." The ones who believe that a gentleman is defined by how many hoops he'll jump through or how many times he can be wrapped around a finger. Basically, people who don't have enough trust that a guy's attention alone proves his interest in her, his wallet does and if he doesn't comply, he's somehow less than a man even though he could offer more than what you could ever deserve.