"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Who pays for the date?

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Should the man pay for the date, or should both people pay their own way? Would paying for the date make me seem like a nice guy? I am only in it for the potential sex, in case that makes a difference.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Always split the bill, or you can pay for lunch and she pays for drinks or something. I don't believe a man should pay for everything unless his seeing an escort.

Women who demand men pay, are prostitutes in my eyes.
 

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Always split the bill, or you can pay for lunch and she pays for drinks or something. I don't believe a man should pay for everything unless his seeing an escort.

Women who demand men pay, are prostitutes in my eyes.
Ok. Thank you!
 

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Should the man pay for the date, or should both people pay their own way? Would paying for the date make me seem like a nice guy? I am only in it for the potential sex, in case that makes a difference.
The inviter pays. That is almost always the man especially in the beginning of courtship. Women who offer to split the bill are blowing smoke up your ass so they don’t owe you anything. Do NOT split the bill ever.
 
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The inviter pays. That is almost always the man especially in the beginning of courtship. Women who offer to split the bill are blowing smoke up your ass so they don’t owe you anything. Do NOT split the bill ever.
Ok. I won't. Thanks for the advice!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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In the beginning of the courtship aka the very first 1-2 dates, the inviter pays. It's as simple as that.

You offered her the date, so you pay. And if the woman you're dating insists on splitting the bill on the 1st date, that's 100% bad omen. She's not sexually interested in you so she doesn't want to feel like she "owes" you anything because she's already knew there won't be a second date.
 

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The inviter pays. That is almost always the man especially in the beginning of courtship. Women who offer to split the bill are blowing smoke up your ass so they don’t owe you anything. Do NOT split the bill ever.
Your both going on the date, so why does the inviter need to pay? You shouldn't make urself so submissive
 

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Don’t split the bill unless the date went horribly and she wants to split it, in that case let her split it. But if the date went well then you should pay it all because you know there will be future dates in which you can split. But always pay on the first date unless it sucks.
 

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Walk up to cashier with her, order what you want ("and that's it") and pay for your own sht. THEN ask her if she wants something or nah as your paying with your card. So she cant hit you with that, "yeah get me a...", as if YOU'RE the cashier lol.

if she does, then step aside and let her get and pay for what she wants. Fellas,,, she was gonna pay for lunch/dinner anyway. Not like because she came out on a date with you, she is therefore spending unnecessary money just cuz you the one who initiated the date.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Good strat. Takes the pressure off the decision and you seem more of a gentleman without making it about gender roles.
 

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if she does, then step aside and let her get and pay for what she wants. Fellas,,, she was gonna pay for lunch/dinner anyway. Not like because she came out on a date with you, she is therefore spending unnecessary money just cuz you the one who initiated the date.
No, this is being cheap. It is neither classy nor attractive. If you extend the invitation, you pay the whole bill. That’s a gentlemanly habit every man should adopt. Only let her pay if she offers to do something else after the date like get ice cream. Otherwise, it is proper to decline her wanting to pay for the date that you planned. Tell her she has to do the inviting if she wants to pay.
 

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No, this is being cheap. It is neither classy nor attractive. If you extend the invitation, you pay the whole bill. That’s a gentlemanly habit every man should adopt. Only let her pay if she offers to do something else after the date like get ice cream. Otherwise, it is proper to decline her wanting to pay for the date that you planned. Tell her she has to do the inviting if she wants to pay.
Exactly, if she offers to buy you movie tickets or ice cream after the date, then you're free to let her. But before that? Come on man, having a spine and having a frame doesn't mean being cheap.
 

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a) I wouldn't do expensive first dates
b) pay for the first date
Same here. Actually the first few dates. There is no splitting the bill until there is a real relationship and we are now doing more expensive things. I pay because I am inviting them on what I am taking them on, it symbolizes leadership, who is in control, and I am the one in control of what the date is and how much it costs. I'm ok if they just want to handle the "tip".

The women who fight to split the bill, don't get a second date. They are either:
  1. a feminist
  2. want to be in control, it feels like you are in a battle for control when they do that
  3. don't trust me, so no point in seeing them again anyway
  4. probably a few more things I could add here if I wanted to think it through more
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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a) I wouldn't do expensive first dates
b) pay for the first date
Yup. Personally, don't do movies, meals, etc for first dates. I'd just go for a coffee/drink and pay for it all. I'd be looking for more than just sex, though, so maybe it's not a great strategy for that?
 
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