eijikenhiyashi
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a girl who is okay looking and has high self-esteem and makes her own decisions. or a girl who is hot but wants me to help her make decisions all the time.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Which do you prefer?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Gangster Of Love
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Prefer for what? To bang or to date in a LTR?
eijikenhiyashi
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To date obviously.
The 2nd one. A real man is supposed to take charge in a relationship. The first chick would turn out to be too uppity and bossy. Hot chicks can sometimes get away with this, but the chick you described are the ones who usually sit at home Friday nights with a box of cookies and a Harlequin romance novel.
PRMoon
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It depends on what you're looking for. The first one works when you have a girl who has a decent job and has goals. In that case she's more of a partner then a subordinate. I prefer that case because it's a two way street. If I in turn am having problems with something, it's nice to know I can go to a thinking partner who can look over the issue with a fresh pair of eyes and give credible advice.
The latter takes more effort on your part because people who ask what to do all the time are more or less drones. A drone is good to order around and are generally only good at performing whatever task are lain out for them but without a guide are lost. I'm not too big of a fan of this because I encourage people to think. It's tricky enough making decisions in my complex life so the last thing I need is to make decisions for two people with no help. Some people can manage this though and prefer it that way.
The latter takes more effort on your part because people who ask what to do all the time are more or less drones. A drone is good to order around and are generally only good at performing whatever task are lain out for them but without a guide are lost. I'm not too big of a fan of this because I encourage people to think. It's tricky enough making decisions in my complex life so the last thing I need is to make decisions for two people with no help. Some people can manage this though and prefer it that way.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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eijikenhiyashi said:
I will not go lower than a 6 in looks and a 7 in intelligence.
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I take it you don't live in the U.S.?DonGorgon said:
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The first girl because she has ambitions, independent and won't depend on you for finacial relief.
The other girl needs to go home and let mommy and daddy finish raising her until she becomes woman enough to make her own decisions.
The other girl needs to go home and let mommy and daddy finish raising her until she becomes woman enough to make her own decisions.
Gangster Of Love
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Believe me, this might sound good on paper (computer screen), it gets very old and annoyin', very very fast.Birdem said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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I have been in the US for 10 years... after 10 in the UK and 10 in the caribbean...MooseGod said: