"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Where to go for a first date?

G Rambo34

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i plan on taking this girl out this weekend for our first date. i havent been on a date since november where i took a girl to a chinse joint since she loved chinese. but the problem here is this girl loves italian food. which means i could take her to a pizzaria or a fancy itlian resturant. what should i do?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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john paul

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whats your favorite food? ice cream maybe?

then go get icecream and go to the park. its getting to be summer outside so why not enjoy it.
 

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john paul said:
whats your favorite food? ice cream maybe?

then go get icecream and go to the park. its getting to be summer outside so why not enjoy it.
That sounds nice. A walk in a beautiful park with a beautiful girl and a nice ice cream to cool you guys down. :up:
 

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How about a cup of coffee? That way you can see if she's gonna be worth your time without blowing $20+
 

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G Rambo34 said:
i plan on taking this girl out this weekend for our first date. i havent been on a date since november where i took a girl to a chinse joint since she loved chinese. but the problem here is this girl loves italian food. which means i could take her to a pizzaria or a fancy itlian resturant. what should i do?
Don't worry about where SHE wants to go. You go where YOU want to go and, since you're a nice guy, let her come along with you.

Feel like going bowling? Great! Go bowling and let her come with you. If you like bowling, this is a great way to avoid awkward conversation. Dinner dates can be stressful because of the conversation they imply.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Daddy The Pimp

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A quick tip.

You better go in a place that you have some activity/action . You dont wanna go on a place that (like caffee shops ) where all the focus is in each other because you can make her and yourself feel uncomfortable .

Use search feature you can find lot of threads about this . I saw great dating ideas that users were rating them . It was great thread but i cant remember . Search for it .

Anyway , bowling , amusement park , kino (overdone) and these kind of activities dont fail :D .
 

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I say no dinner dates, too many AFC connotations. Meet for a drink in a bar where you have some social proof.
 

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A good one is ice skating. It is an action date, so you are not just sitting there staring at each other....gets her adrenaline pumping a bit. Plus, there are SO many opportunities for kino. Also, if the weather is nice, the zoo is a really great place to go....lots of opportunities for C&F ;)
 

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ARrocket said:
the zoo is a really great place to go....lots of opportunities for C&F ;)

You see that elephants ****? Thats what your dealing with tonight, give or take a few inches
 
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