Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Sounds good to me. You're not losing anything by doing this because you don't have her anyway. Oh, and I've done this, and it works.DonGorgon said:Agree to meet at 6 then flake ........ call the next day like all is cool and tell her that you think she is really cool but your just not sure if you have time to see her... then she will become eager.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You're really making more work for yourself and making it worse for yourself.she sent back: 'I dont know they're planning to leave quite late. so I dont know.. would you like to meet tomorrow at 6?'
that seems reasonable enough except gives her another chance to flake..
I really f'd up.. cos im at the location with my prior engagement so it be convenient for her to meet, I text back 'maybe but I cant do 6 though. my meeting just finished, but I need to go shops for few hrs now so I could meet u later tonight. how late ur friends leaving?'
she got back to me and asked me when I will finish shopping. how should I respond?
I was thinking of sending 'dont know im getting a new phone so looking for a good one right now. give me a time to meet and we'll meet.'
Maybe it would be better NOT to make things too convenient for a woman, you know? Have her show some effort. Not a lot, I don't mean make them jump through burning hoops. You really want someone to date you because hey, it's "convenient" for her? You know what I mean?so it be convenient for her to meet
Dude, since you think you're the lucky one, you've already failed. Forget about her and find yourself.pete101 said:the thing bare in mind she's already semi flakey and i was only lucky that i did quite well on the phone the other night that increased her interest level a bit more..
that was a harsh reality.tick37 said:Dude, since you think you're the lucky one, you've already failed. Forget about her and find yourself.
MacAvoy said:I would just tell her to call you after her friends leave and leave it at that. .
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
That is EXACTLY my point. However it puts the ball in her court, Pete is already going to sit around all day waiting for her no matter what instead of going to find new plates.DonGorgon said:There is too high of a chance that her friends will not let that happen...
We have all been there..tick37 said:Yes, you are AFC. Stop! Don't chase her anymore. Don't chase any women anymore. You should never ever make last minutes plans with a woman you hardly even know. You're too busy, and she isn't into you because you're not being the catch that you should be. You're too needy and pushy.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I know that I was there once. Deep in the dismal black hole of AFCism. Most of my life, and I was so unhappy.DonGorgon said:We have all been there..![]()
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Not for nothing, but we oughtta get her on here to post advice because she knows how to handle this stuff better than most of you guys.she gives me some stupid text reply about meeting in 2010 as a joke
Which, when translated to the Woman, means = "Look! I'm chasing you now! I'm on your hook! Give me any time to meet you, any time at all. I'll be there! I am SO available!"i responded straight back that I should have rephrased it as 'give me a time tonight and we'll meet.. so what time tonight?'
Pressure. Desperation. No self-control. Is this AFC you ask? Yes, I'd say so.she didn't get back to me so I called her 20mins later she didn't pick up (surprise surprise) then 40mins later left it with
Like she cares.i was quite annoyed so I basically told her she's losing points with me
Gee, you might've intimidated her voice mail.then I said give me a time and be there. no more excuses or last min cancellations.
You're now going beyond AFC and into the world of stalker. Stop calling. You should have given her space and time to decide on her own. Now you're pushing her and being selfish. You didn't even give her a chance. You started chasing, and she started to run. They always run when you chase.pete101 said:guys i dont understand what the hell is going on..
i call her now with no caller id so she doesn't know who it is (i dont think shes smart enough to realise these things yet..)
i completely make no mention of todays indiscretions and just acted c+f, i made some joke on the phone immediately and had her laughing then she says to me 'i've never met anyone like you before who's so ****y..'
i didn't know how to respond so i said 'well im not ****y and arrogant, im ****y and funny.'
i guess it raises my level a bit that she thinks im self assured.. i just need to prove it. but anyway she's meeting me tomorrow.
unless of course she cancels on me last min.. how come this girl isn't following by the rules and things you guys have been saying in regards to flaking etc?
obviously i'll be embarassed if she ends up flaking.. she sounds like a girl of high interest on the phone.. but she wont take my calls unless she doesn't know it's me.. crazy.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.