tennisbuck12
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What do you guys say, when a chick says she can't meet up with you? Do you not respond?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
When the answer is No
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Krueg
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If you like her and seems like she has a valid excuse, you can say: Thats too bad, I was looking forward to (Whatever the date was). Maybe we can do something another time. Then try again later one last time.
OR if you think she is blowing you off you could say: Sorry to hear, have a good night. Click!
OR if you think she is blowing you off you could say: Sorry to hear, have a good night. Click!
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
dustmuffin
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Np another time. Then try again in a couple weeks. If she flakes again next.
lizardking82
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If she's a ****buddy "it;s cool, we meet up another time" and I let her hit me up.
If she's a girlfriend "hey, it's alright, babe, we can do that some other day soon" and I let her hit me up again although I'd probably talk to her couple of hours later to say good night or sth.
If she's a girl I am dating "no probs, sexy, am sure we'll make time some other day" and under no circumstance do I hit her up if/until she does.
If she's a girlfriend "hey, it's alright, babe, we can do that some other day soon" and I let her hit me up again although I'd probably talk to her couple of hours later to say good night or sth.
If she's a girl I am dating "no probs, sexy, am sure we'll make time some other day" and under no circumstance do I hit her up if/until she does.
This is your 3rd thread about this girl. You already been on 2 dates with her. If shes saying anything other then yes, then its a no. Either next her now or hit her up in a week and ask again, then next her if answer isn't yes. That's your only play here.
tennisbuck12
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Epsi, I asked her on a third date and she still hasn't responded. She said she still feels like **** and I said I know something fun to do that will help. We both like cars and there's a race track locally.
lizardking82
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This is the first step you take into the white knighting behaviour. It is the third time she gives you **** while you're not to blame for that and you go all "oh, sweetypie, come here, your white knight in shining armour will take you to the races to make his little girl happy". Dude, for your own sake, stop trying to save her from her bull****. Let her handle it herself. If she cannot handle her own ****, she ain't worth your time anyways, not even as a quick pump and dump.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Nope. You can't say this.
"No worries."
1. Who said she is worried?
2. You are telling her you are OK with her to hang out with her girlfriends fiancé than be with you.
"Let me know when you change your mind."
1. Translation: Im not going to do anything special between now and the time you change your mind. But let me know when you discover I'm awesome.
2. What if she 'lets you know', and you are sleeping with another girl? Now she has that on you. 'You told me to let you know when I suddenly realized you were awesome, and now you are with her? You are a lying scumbag!"
Guys, don't EVER say anything about the future. If she can't meet up with you and hasn't requested a response, you don't say anything. Even if she HAS requested a response, you think carefully about it.
Sorry to hear. Take care.
tennisbuck12
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She never responded. Her loss.
If you guys were going to send one final text to leave doubt and keep her wondering what would it be.
If you guys were going to send one final text to leave doubt and keep her wondering what would it be.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
tennisbuck12
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Yep, this is the first time in 9 months I need to use a throwaway text. They never do much, but there's nothing to loose.
tennisbuck12
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The thing that blows my mind. I was taking her home on the second date and she asked if I was going to come in leaving the restaurant by the time we got to her house she changed her mind. I was rubbing her leg, while i was driving. But thats nothing.
Nothing.
I'd also send nothing, but as long as your frame isn't shaken, there's nothing to lose with a throwaway text.
Acting butt hurt doesn't accomplish anything either and it might give her that impression
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.