BongDuy
Master Don Juan
Like if you go on dates, that's still a bit open. but when is it official that you two are a couple? When she says "I love you" or something? after the seventh kiss or some ridiculous rule?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
when do you consider her your gf
- Thread starter BongDuy
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
LinkinParkROX
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Yep. You assume she's your girl from the first date on. This helps your whole mindset as well. Opening you up to Kino easily. Treat her like she's your girlfriend, because she is unless she says otherwise. Know that if she specifically, clearly tells you to back off and that she's not your girlfriend and she's not interested, the opposite is true - she is your girlfriend, and she's interested in you. Simple. 
Good luck, champ!
Good luck, champ! jeffthechef
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ypu..both guys above me are right
treat the first outing as if she was your gf...kino/talk as though she's yours
you're "official" when she tells you that you guys are
usually after the first kiss...she'll wonder what your status is..and finally ask if you guys are official...then you can decide
treat the first outing as if she was your gf...kino/talk as though she's yours
you're "official" when she tells you that you guys are
usually after the first kiss...she'll wonder what your status is..and finally ask if you guys are official...then you can decide
NYKfan0303
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When it's Facebook official! haha just kidding
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.