When a woman says "we can go out as friends"

[BackInTheGame78]

Not necessarily. It could be workout talk the whole time, all business.



A man can't turn it around in a different setting?

I think zekko said it, this is different than a man going out with her several times and then a woman says it. If a woman is willing to be seen with the man and spend with the man, whether its a free lunch or not, its an opportunity.

I'm little surprised the top Alpha Dog's in here are saying "you're done" and "humiliated" and "its over" when a woman says "we can go only as friends". The response I gave was "Sure, I'll pick you up at 12 pm." In fact, my response could be interpreted as "yes I want friendship too, you are not hot enough for me to sleep with you."

For alot of men, it takes time to develop something with a woman. They aren't top men on Sosuave where a woman's clothes come off after a 1st date and the hot woman feels blessed she gave into her basic instincts to such a Alpha.

Yet maybe they should work on being that guy.

Any man with options would have zero time for this silliness. Period.

And any woman who knew the man has options that was actually interested would never even try that to begin with.

You seem to be getting yourself twisted up like a pretzel trying to figure a way to crack a case that would be better served letting go cold.

By the time anything with this woman will happen, you could have dated and fvcked multiple other women and have a rotation going where you wouldn't even have room for her.

The issue is more that your time should be valuable and you shouldn't entertain this type of nonsense regardless of what you think could happen which is most likely a projection of what you want to happen versus what she wants to happen.

 

[Gamisch]

Any man with options would have zero time for this silliness. Period.

And any woman who knew the man has options that was actually interested would never even try that to begin with.

You seem to be getting yourself twisted up like a pretzel trying to figure a way to crack a case that would be better served letting go cold.

By the time anything with this woman will happen, you could have dated and fvcked multiple other women and have a rotation going where you wouldn't even have room for her.

The issue is more that your time should be valuable and you shouldn't entertain this type of nonsense regardless of what you think could happen which is most likely a projection of what you want to happen versus what she wants to happen.

It's all subjective, as what constitutes a "don", an "alpha", or whatever other title that used used in the manosphere to describe a man's behaviors and/or mentality...particularly in the context of dating.



That said..in my opinion..



A man who willfully subjects himself to be in the friendzone by a woman, cannot be considered a "don juan" or an "alpha male".



Nor can a man be an alpha, if he is advising men to be friends-zoned.



One of the traits of an alpha male is leadership.



As a man, you are to lead the exchange and dictate the type of relationship you want with a woman, and if she doesn't follow your lead, then she aint for you.



Move the f on, and find women that will follow your program.



If you allow yourself to be friends-zoned, you are following her lead..when she should be following your lead.



But, that's what scarcity will do to you.



It will have to you panting around and following women like a pet puppy B!TCH.



Instead of being a wolf; a man of abundance, standards, and principles.

Okay yall kinda convinced me

 

[BadBoy89]

This is just irrational and a good example of confirmation bias. You're choosing to believe the possibility you hope is true while ignoring the stronger evidence right in front of you. You are paying more attention to things that support the outcome you want and dismissing the information that go against it.

This is the similar to the advice given on Sosuave.

Since I didn’t sleep with her, a lot of the responses were “you didn’t listen to her” “it was a waste of time” “I’ve never been friendzoned”. ‘You were humiliated”

If I had slept with her, the responses would have been “good you brushed it off, girls are silly“. “Good you focused on your goal”. “Good you weren’t fazed by her words”

The advice given on Sosuave depends on the outcome of the situation.