"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
What's Your Number?
- Thread starter Anti-Dump
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Anti-Dump
Master Don Juan
Soon you will realize I think very highly of women.
I think they are SMART and STRONG that's why I am here!
If they were unsmart and weak this Forum would shut down! Who would need it?
AD
I don't think this forum would shut down if all women were considered weak and "unsmart".
After all, women were seen as such back in the day....why else were women not allowed to vote, needed to go from father to husband like a possession not allowed to own land, unless they were widowed (God forbid they actually deal with money) and have no knowledge of anything except what were considered female accomplishments, ie..how to stitch, play piano and generally just look pretty.
Besides, I have known of men, who rather like having a not so smart female who generally is considered weak. But, then I think its just because those men like feeling needed and "manly".
Whatever floats your boat.
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Anti-Dump
Master Don Juan
AD
[This message has been edited by Anti-Dump (edited 06-26-2000).]
Anti-Dump
Master Don Juan
I want to delete the above reply.
I tried to edit it but couldn't.
Please nobody answer it. I was trying to erase it and made a mistake.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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Don the Legend
Master Don Juan
How in the hell could you talk to a girl for 15 minutes when you know nothing about her? My goal would be 2-3 minutes before I asked for the number.Originally posted by Ryan
AD, I sure get where ur coming from, but u just met a chick that u've been talking 2 4 like 15mins.She don't know jacksh!t about u; obviously she'll feel threatened if a complete stranger asks 4 her #??
Bloke
Senior Don Juan
She gives it to him
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.