Da Realist
Master Don Juan
The question is, drak, have you done or have you not? Like I said: been there, done that. Instead of attacking the "rules", test them.
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Most girls know where they stand on the hotness totem pole. Taking her to a club is unlikely to alter her perception of herself. If a girl is a HB9, she knows damn well that she is an HB9. Going to a club wouldn't exactly be a revelation for her.zekko said:I agree with this. If that's what you want to do, do it. But generally speaking, I would advise almost anyone against it. Just the fact that guys will likely be hitting on her a lot (if she is hot) would be reason enough for me to avoid it. This would be strengthening her frame, giving her validation, and increasing her value in her eyes relative to yours. Plus guys hitting on her could result in several types of bad situations. But I don't like clubs anyway. Like I said, if you find it fun, go for it. But I think there are way better date ideas.
I remember I used to date this HB9, and she was a true HB9, not just an inflated number like I have a feeling you see a lot here (I don't believe in 10s by the way). Anyway, when I took her out guys were falling over themselves to get to her. You could tell the player types because they would gaze steadily into her eyes. She knew how to handle herself, but I found it annoying honestly. And I never even took her to a club, I can't even imagine the attention she would have drawn there.
That's what this whole thread is about. I'm attacking the rules by testing them. I have taken plenty of dates to bars, as I mentionned in the past, at one point it used to be part of my standard routine. I also take my gf now to clubs when I feel like hitting them up. I have never seen her flirt with a guy that is try to hit on her. Not when I go to the bathroom, not when I (or she) go(es) to the bar, or in any other situation. If I got any other reaction from her, I would start re-assessing our relationship.Da Realist said:Instead of attacking the "rules", test them.
Truthfully, it wasn't so negative since I found out at the time she down for me. On top of that, it was funny how scared guys were to do anything in my sight.drak_ool said:That's what this whole thread is about. I'm attacking the rules by testing them. I have taken plenty of dates to bars, as I mentionned in the past, at one point it used to be part of my standard routine. I also take my gf now to clubs when I feel like hitting them up. I have never seen her flirt with a guy that is try to hit on her. Not when I go to the bathroom, not when I (or she) go(es) to the bar, or in any other situation. If I got any other reaction from her, I would start re-assessing our relationship.
Since you say your opinion is based on your own actual negative experiences with chicks/gfs you took out to clubs, I respect it. Clubs are not for everybody. I'm not saying you HAVE TO take girls there, I am simply saying you can make it work if that scene is your thing even if you bring your date/gf.
We're all tyring to escape the matrix, so let's not start erecting our own walls and hide behind them is all I'm saying. Let go of your limiting beliefs and the possibilities are endless.
He's not talking about a girl he's in a relationship with. He's talking about testing a new girl and having a date at a club.iqqi said:Great post, OP.
If you are worried about taking your girl to the club, you have a whole world of other problems going on there. That is just one telling sign.
Being in a relationship does not mean you stop liking music, and to dance. Going together to the club, and having a good time, means that you have a compatibility and attraction that withstands mere outside influence.
Either way, dude, either way.Falcon25 said:He's not talking about a girl he's in a relationship with. He's talking about testing a new girl and having a date at a club.
He is not saying either way dude, he is ridiculing and calling those that don't want to be in that position as insecure. He has already decided on what to do, he is just putting down those that don't agree with him. That's where the problem comes in, dude.iqqi said:Either way, dude, either way.
He is saying that you should be able to take a girl to the club without worry about insecure crap, and have a great time. I totally agree.
Falcon25 said:He is not saying either way dude, he is ridiculing and calling those that don't want to be in that position as insecure. He has already decided on what to do, he is just putting down those that don't agree with him. That's where the problem comes in, dude.
Once again, he is not talking about a girl he is dating or in a relationship with. IT'S A GIRL HE JUST MET.iqqi said:I am pretty sure that he said he was referring to a couple of posts already made, as well as some of the opposing viewpoints on this thread, as insecure. Which I agree!
If you are worried about your girl, you are not secure with your girl, which means you are insecure. It is insecure to be worried about taking your girl to the club because you think other guys will be able to take her away from you or your attention.
And with this thread, he is also trying to let other readers realize, that it is FUN and OK to go to the club with a girl you are dating or in a relationship with.
Falcon25 I find it funny that you feel so offended by what I allegedly say, yet... you don't even take the time to read what I wrote!Falcon25 said:Once again, he is not talking about a girl he is dating or in a relationship with. IT'S A GIRL HE JUST MET.