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What was your breaking point from nice guy to dj?

SW15

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I would say many rejections in high school and possibly college, though by college I was reading seduction articles online.

My father was mainly absentee when my parents were married and did not provide any guidance on dating. My parents separated at the beginning of my sophomore year of high school before I started dating, though I had been to some high school dances as a freshman. I remember one dance as a freshman where a fellow freshman and some girl were essentially humping on the dance floor. I was disappointed that I was not that guy.

My mom's brother (my uncle) was the only other adult male that could possibly provide the teenage version of me with some guidance. In reality, he could not. Number 1, he did not live nearby and couldn't do much in person, though we were able to talk on the phone. Number 2, he married his high school sweetheart at the end of college. That marriage lasts to this day. By the time I was 16-18 in the late 90s/early 2000s, he had not dated since the 1960s. He didn't understand the modern market and admitted so.

I had to learn everything about seduction, dating, and relationships on the internet or by reading books. The male voices I found most credible were in the Manosphere. In college, I was reading David DeAngelo (student of Ross Jeffries) and I read some Doc Love, who is a better for longer term relationships. David DeAngelo's idea of "Attraction is not a choice" resonated with me. Confidence from both DeAngelo and Love made sense, and the interest level principles from Love were good. Years later, Roosh's "Bang" and "Day Bang" were helpful.

Due to numerous childhood relocations, I never had a social circle capable of producing dates for me. Some subsequent adulthood relocations happened. I was reliant upon putting things together myself, either through cold approach, websites (pre-swipe app era), swipe apps, or social media. All these paths are not easy paths. Cold approaching is the best of all the options and I needed guidance with that.

A man needs to be able to approach at bars, a female in a high school or college class, females at college extracurricular events, randomly walking on campus, at the grocery store, at the gym, and other places. Cold approaching is a good lifelong skill.
 

lost_blackbird

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I'm not a DJ nor can I ever be one. I'm living my life to suit myself now sure, but honestly I'm
never going to be 'that guy with the swagger' that women want. I don't have any motivation
to pursue females whatsoever. I'm quite happy with a quick self administered hand job and
then getting on with my day. I simply don't have a clue when it comes to women and quite
honestly feel happier without one in my life after my marriage failed. I still have to see my wife
from time to time at the moment as a lot of my belongings are still at her (once our) place
and I'm shipping them out gradually into my house, just twenty minutes in her company
is enough to put me in a bad mood for a good 24 hours. Why on earth would I want to find
a new source of pain? I have come to a place where I actively dislike women, a great deal of
my problems in my life have a woman at the root of them. The only ones that have stood by
me and consistently tried to help me are my mother and my sister. I wouldn't p1ss on the rest
of them if they were on fire. Just being honest.
 
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IKO69

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I just got tired of getting the short end of the stick, realized where I was at fault and decided to never go back to where I was again.
 

Pierce.Manhammer

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May I ask why you are posting on a forum dedicated to the pursuit of women?

I'm not a DJ nor can I ever be one. I'm living my life to suit myself now sure, but honestly I'm
never going to be 'that guy with the swagger' that women want. I don't have any motivation
to pursue females whatsoever. I'm quite happy with a quick self administered hand job and
then getting on with my day. I simply don't have a clue when it comes to women and quite
honestly feel happier without one in my life after my marriage failed. I still have to see my wife
from time to time at the moment as a lot of my belongings are still at her (once our) place
and I'm shipping them out gradually into my house, just twenty minutes in her company
is enough to put me in a bad mood for a good 24 hours. Why on earth would I want to find
a new source of pain? I have come to a place where I actively dislike women, a great deal of
my problems in my life have a woman at the root of them. The only ones that have stood by
me and consistently tried to help me are my mother and my sister. I wouldn't p1ss on the rest
of them if they were on fire. Just being honest.
 

lost_blackbird

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May I ask why you are posting on a forum dedicated to the pursuit of women?
Because I know that my situation isn't normal. I'm waiting for that eureka moment where
the penny drops and I come to understand the necessity for female company and feel a
motivation to seek it. In short, I'm here to learn and observe.
 

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