"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What do you guys usually do for dates?

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Everyone knows there are options. Coffee shops, restaurants, going out, dancing, parties/events, etc.

I personally have found a lot of success with activities that I'd be doing anyway. (i.e. working from home and just having the girl over, practicing music/playing gigs, going to the gym.)

What has worked well for you guys date wise?

Cheers
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

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A drink, maybe an app if you want to continue the convo. Usually, never longer than an hour or two. Though, I've gone longer on occasion if the chemistry was there and we were about to get hot and heavy. You can even ask her, before asking the bartender/waiter what she's drinking. Then, you say when the bartender comes over, she's buying me a Johnny Black neat, I'm buying her a rum and coke; no ice.

Always lead.

As for second dates, groupon, goldstar and similar apps are your friend. Axe throwing is a great adrenaline rush both can do for cheap. Other options would be tennis, pool, mini-golf, feeding the ducks (weather permitting) at the park, zoo, etc. Don't do like some dudes here and feed her before you f uck her. You want to get an app during drinks, fine, nothing more. A first date shouldn't be more than 40 bucks in a major metro area. Second date, 40 - 60 bucks (activity + drinks after). You want to plan an activity near your place or hers. Therefore, if you go for drinks again, you can head back to either and get something cooking. Get it?
 
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A drink, maybe an app if you want to continue the convo. Usually, never longer than an hour or two. Though, I've gone longer on occasion if the chemistry was there and we were about to get hot and heavy. You can even ask her, before asking the bartender/waiter what she's drinking. Then, you say when the bartender comes over, she's buying me a Johnny Black neat, I'm buying her a rum and coke; no ice.

Always lead.

As for second dates, groupon, goldstar and similar apps are your friend. Axe throwing is a great adrenaline rush both can do for cheap. Other options would be tennis, pool, mini-golf, feeding the ducks (weather permitting) at the park, zoo, etc. Don't do like some dudes here and feed her before you f uck her. You want to get an app during drinks, fine, nothing more. A first date shouldn't be more than 40 bucks in a major metro area. Second date, 40 - 60 bucks (activity + drinks after). You want to plan an activity near your place or hers. Therefore, if you go for drinks again, you can head back to either and get something cooking. Get it?
Great ideas! I appreciate it.

also LOL feed her before you f uck her. What is she like a gremlin? cant get water on her or some shi t. that's funny.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A drink, maybe an app if you want to continue the convo. Usually, never longer than an hour or two. Though, I've gone longer on occasion if the chemistry was there and we were about to get hot and heavy. You can even ask her, before asking the bartender/waiter what she's drinking. Then, you say when the bartender comes over, she's buying me a Johnny Black neat, I'm buying her a rum and coke; no ice.

Always lead.

As for second dates, groupon, goldstar and similar apps are your friend. Axe throwing is a great adrenaline rush both can do for cheap. Other options would be tennis, pool, mini-golf, feeding the ducks (weather permitting) at the park, zoo, etc. Don't do like some dudes here and feed her before you f uck her. You want to get an app during drinks, fine, nothing more. A first date shouldn't be more than 40 bucks in a major metro area. Second date, 40 - 60 bucks (activity + drinks after). You want to plan an activity near your place or hers. Therefore, if you go for drinks again, you can head back to either and get something cooking. Get it?

If I was you I would drop the groupon thing... I'd say there's a 90% chance she's gonna be thinking cheap skate - It makes you look like you chose that place because you had a coupon rather than because you thought it was a cool place to go. It's in most cases a turn off. I get that you wanna save money, but there are plenty of chances in life to be frugal and this isn't one of them.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If I was you I would drop the groupon thing... I'd say there's a 90% chance she's gonna be thinking cheap skate - It makes you look like you chose that place because you had a coupon rather than because you thought it was a cool place to go. It's in most cases a turn off. I get that you wanna save money, but there are plenty of chances in life to be frugal and this isn't one of them.

For sure,

better to do cheap activities (coffee & explore the city) at "full price" than a more expensive one and start whipping out coupons left and right lol
 

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If I was you I would drop the groupon thing... I'd say there's a 90% chance she's gonna be thinking cheap skate - It makes you look like you chose that place because you had a coupon rather than because you thought it was a cool place to go. It's in most cases a turn off. I get that you wanna save money, but there are plenty of chances in life to be frugal and this isn't one of them.
Never had a problem with it dude. I pay on my phone, they never know. But, if you like to pay full price, knock yourself out.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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I have taken girls fishing and sharks tooth hunting. I always get the “that was the best date ever “ afterwards. Just invite them along to do things that you enjoy doing.
 
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