Blue Phoenix
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Yeah, that´s more or less the same thing. To me this has nothing to do with higher value, but that´s just me.ready123 said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
What do you guys think about PUA's?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
ready123
Master Don Juan
another way to look at it is as supplication but with the genders reversed. and I think his definition of value, is perceived value, meaning what a girl thinks you're worth. not what type of man you really areBlue Phoenix said:Yeah, that´s more or less the same thing. To me this has nothing to do with higher value, but that´s just me.
and it's not really a concept as it is a general observation. people react to those who they feel are higher value. it's the same reason a gorgeous girl can walk into a room and a bunch of guys who are talking pause the conversation to check her out
I wouldn't call a chick at an inconvenient time either, but if I did, and the girl picked up and was more than willing to talk to me, that says a lot about her interest in me
TD doesnt do that at all. He used too, but completely redefined his game, and started over using no lines or routines. I dont think he peacocks either. His game is 100% core confidence, and high self value. He teaches against using canned openers. He is totally impromptu. When he talks about calling a girl at 4 am, he is only saying that he wouldnt be afraid to if he wanted too. Its all about ultimate inner game, and having the balls to do crazy shyt everyone would be afraid to do. He'll use funny facial expressions for openers. He's the opposite of MM now, even though he used to do MM style himself. I'll have to look into Matador. I've never heard of him.DJVladdy said:From what I've seen - the PUA I have most respect for is Matador. Other's like Mystery, TD.. are still geeks trying to cover it up with outrageous clothes and memorized routines.
EDIT: I checked out Matador. He's one of Mystery's guys. He has the same canned routine game, nothing against them, cuz it obviously works, but its not for me. Im completely sold on TD, and RSD.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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I hang around with quite a few PUA's and they are all very decent guys. So naturally I like them. I consider myself to be one in a sense. Being a PUA doesnt mean you are just out to bang as many girls as possible. To me being a PUA is about gaining enough experience with women that you aquire an ability with them to have choice. I want to be able to attract a decent wife when I am older, and to do so, im going to have to work for it. Might have gone abit off topic there, but asking the question what do you think about PUA's implies that they have a bad name